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Post by Sir Thorfinn on Feb 28, 2024 20:39:11 GMT
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Post by cygnus on Feb 28, 2024 20:43:57 GMT
And I thought teachers were a lost cause.
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Post by Lord Newport on Feb 29, 2024 4:28:57 GMT
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Post by izzy on Mar 1, 2024 13:41:31 GMT
Severe lack of Judgement letting young men and ladies fight with what appears to be factory edge swords (?)... that being said, the lawyer is pimping the injury. people.com/sword-duel-left-girl-16-with-permanent-injuries-lawsuit-alleges-8602119"the student — who was 16 at the time and is now 17 — has been diagnosed with post-traumatic stress disorder and her wrist and hand are permanently damaged, per the outlet. The family’s attorney said in the complaint that the injury has changed her client's “entire life” and has been “discouraging” and “depressing.” PTSD (  ) there goes my sympathy...with that thrown in I wonder just how injured that young lady really was/ is.
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Post by mrstabby on Mar 1, 2024 17:37:05 GMT
Yah, I feel PTSD gets thrown around too liberally these days.
It does not take much to sever tendons and nerves, depending on how sharp it really was. I know from experience severed nerves are no fun, so I can see the mobility being heavily restricted in the hand. I can see a surface level cut being pumped up to a more serious thing as well. There is so much exaggeration around, I think this to be more likely unfortunately....
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Post by Arlequin on Mar 1, 2024 18:00:16 GMT
Severe lack of Judgement letting young men and ladies fight with what appears to be factory edge swords (?)... that being said, the lawyer is pimping the injury. people.com/sword-duel-left-girl-16-with-permanent-injuries-lawsuit-alleges-8602119"the student — who was 16 at the time and is now 17 — has been diagnosed with post-traumatic stress disorder and her wrist and hand are permanently damaged, per the outlet. The family’s attorney said in the complaint that the injury has changed her client's “entire life” and has been “discouraging” and “depressing.” PTSD ( ) there goes my sympathy...with that thrown in I wonder just how injured that young lady really was/ is.
I wouldn't be so quick to write off a hand injury, it's a very important and complex part of our bodies. I knew a JSA guy who cut up his hand real bad, the Koiguchi on his saya failed while he was practicing draw cuts, sliced open his palm and severed the nerves between his index and thumb. He was a musician on the side, had to give that up, and had to find a new job since his grip strength went to semprini and couldn't do any heavy lifting or use precise tools. Last I checked on him 5 years after the incident his hand hadnt improved in any significant way I also suffered a hand injury when I was 17(non sword related but required surgery) and was pretty useless for 6 months. Really makes ya wonder what was going through the teachers head, didn't even bring any head gear, what would she have done some kid got jabbed in the eye with that rapier lol. It's crazy cause my 7 grade history teacher actually brought in his swords when were going over the crusades and it was a pretty awesome experience, but he didn't do this semprini lol. |
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Post by Sir Thorfinn on Mar 1, 2024 19:05:51 GMT
What's funny about this, is it wouldn't even make folks blink in the 70's-80's.
Times have changed.
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Post by mrstabby on Mar 1, 2024 20:33:06 GMT
"Hey Timmy, how was school today?" "I cut off my finger, teacher fainted - it was AWESOME!"
Man, if I had developed PTSD every time I got a wound that caused lasting damage I'd have about 5 PTSDs from my teen years.
EDIT: Found a video, seems she got some tendon/nerve injury, from the wound placement, back of the hand behind the thumb, likely thumb and index finger tendon/nerves. Really bad spot where everything runs through. The Katana drew blood it seems, not the rapier. And the person saying it was a "real" sword was the EMT. 70/30 it was wallhangers.
And of course it was a chemistry teacher, these have been the most awesome people in my experience. 
EDIT2: @57sec you see the sword in more detail. (don't know how much is shown in original article, no VPN rn)
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Post by izzy on Mar 2, 2024 22:37:24 GMT
Severe lack of Judgement letting young men and ladies fight with what appears to be factory edge swords (?)... that being said, the lawyer is pimping the injury. people.com/sword-duel-left-girl-16-with-permanent-injuries-lawsuit-alleges-8602119"the student — who was 16 at the time and is now 17 — has been diagnosed with post-traumatic stress disorder and her wrist and hand are permanently damaged, per the outlet. The family’s attorney said in the complaint that the injury has changed her client's “entire life” and has been “discouraging” and “depressing.” PTSD ( ) there goes my sympathy...with that thrown in I wonder just how injured that young lady really was/ is.
I wouldn't be so quick to write off a hand injury, it's a very important and complex part of our bodies. I knew a JSA guy who cut up his hand real bad, the Koiguchi on his saya failed while he was practicing draw cuts, sliced open his palm and severed the nerves between his index and thumb. He was a musician on the side, had to give that up, and had to find a new job since his grip strength went to semprini and couldn't do any heavy lifting or use precise tools. Last I checked on him 5 years after the incident his hand hadnt improved in any significant way I also suffered a hand injury when I was 17(non sword related but required surgery) and was pretty useless for 6 months. Really makes ya wonder what was going through the teachers head, didn't even bring any head gear, what would she have done some kid got jabbed in the eye with that rapier lol. It's crazy cause my 7 grade history teacher actually brought in his swords when were going over the crusades and it was a pretty awesome experience, but he didn't do this semprini lol. Well she did bleed for a while...so no doubt she had some injury. The aggressive Lawyer claiming PTSD is over the top...as bad as this educators sensibilities (or lack thereof) was. The expected outcome when playing with live blades of reasonable sharpness is someone is going to get hurt eventually.
I would NEVER condone such a actions, besides the cut, (as you point out Correctly) the possibilities serious injury from thrusting, is even more serious and potentially deadly.
I am not saying, nor would I ever say she is for sure she is not "permanently" damaged, without knowing more, but that lawyer sowed doubts in my mind with the claim of "PTSD."
So let's get technical...
IN the link Sr Thorfin posted, the video shows a blurred picture of Damage to the TOP of the wrist closer to the thumb. This is where the Superficial branch of the Radial Nerve is located..
""D.M. struck N.S. across her right forearm, wrist, and hand with the katana-style sword," according to plaintiff's attorney Jessica Hernandez. "N.S. suffered a large and deep laceration across her right hand and wrist that is inconsistent with a 'prop' sword."
A cut to the INSIDE (palm side) of the fingers / hand, or the inside of the wrist/ arm is more likely to sever nerves that are critical for motor function like the Median Nerve or the Ulnar Nerve and their branches in the fingers...( in terms of fingers that would be what happened to your friend with his Saya).
If the Young lady had been cut deeply on the INSIDE of the forearm, it would have cut one or more arteries ( Radial or Ulnar Arteries) as well, and most likely first (!) as the radial Artery is on top of the major Radial nerve along with the tendons...the girl would have been mostly likely bleeding out all over the floor, that is not what happened, not if they could wait 30 minutes before calling an ambulance....let alone how much extra time that would take before the Ambulance got there after calling 911.
Here is the court filing case numbers, and date...May 2, 2022 was the date of the original event. Sorry. the look up tool does not provide the actual contents of the case...
Arnold Gachupin, et al., v. Albuquerque Public Schools, et al.
Case Number Current Judge Filing Date Court
D-202-CV-202401638 Lopez, Victor S. 02/23/2024 ALBUQUERQUE DISTRICT
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) there goes my sympathy...with that thrown in I wonder just how injured that young lady really was/ is.
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