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Post by erichofprovence on Feb 26, 2024 9:33:15 GMT
Hello everyone, I am back to share my latest scabbard, which I made for the newest addition to my collection. Unfortunately I forgot to take any WIP pictures, so this is only the final stuff. The sword is a custom build by Jimbo Curry that I acquired second hand here in the UK. As far as I know, the blade is from the Windlass Arbedo and the guard is from the A&A Black Prince Sword. For the pommel, I am a bit unsure, but I have seen similar ones around, including on the Albion Discerner (although I don't think that's the one, might be a custom job). Now for the scabbard: This is a felt lined veneer core reinforced with a linen wrap and then wrapped in leather and sewn in the back. The chape is a wonderful design from Matt JR Lewis and made by Matt Bayley from Bayley Heritage Castings. Finally the belt fittings are from Celtic Web Merchant. The tooling is all my own design, although I was inspired by Peter Johnsson's acanthus tendrils design and method ( link). Still a lot of room for improvement, especially on the paint job, but I learned a lot with this one and can't wait to jump on the next one! Hope you all enjoyed it! |
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Post by stormmaster on Feb 26, 2024 17:56:08 GMT
Looks great gj
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Post by Lord Newport on Feb 26, 2024 19:01:47 GMT
Just so you know, "Jimbo Curry" has been responsible for less than honorable / professional business practices with several members of this forum in the past.
Just to make clear for those seeing this thread, "Jimbo Curry" is NOT a sword maker. He "was" a "cutler" who customizes/modifies swords and knives made by others. I think several people are still out $$$ and swords to this day.
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Post by erichofprovence on Feb 26, 2024 19:22:22 GMT
Just so you know, "Jimbo Curry" has been responsible for less than honorable / professional business practices with several members of this forum in the past. Just to make clear for those seeing this thread, "Jimbo Curry" is NOT a sword maker. He "was" a "cutler" who customizes/modifies swords and knives made by others. I think several people are still out $$$ and swords to this day. Hi, Thank you for your specification, but I must raise that this is just why I specified the different parts that make up the sword. I also mentioned that I acquired it second hand. I am well aware of the grievances some people have regarding Jimbo Curry and empathise with them. But having had no first hand experience with him, it is really not my place to make claims. I must also point out that the sword itself is not the point of this thread. I only added a description of it for information and did not see the point of commenting on it further (I didn't comment about the sword's quality either, being aware of the problems some people may have about it). I just wanted to share my work on the scabbard because as a beginner I am proud of it and want to share my experience and learning curve. I am also open to have a discussion aaboutscabbard making if anyone is interested in the method or has constructive feedback or advice. Can we please leave it at that and not start yet another discussion about Curry? 😉 |
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Post by erichofprovence on Feb 26, 2024 19:23:02 GMT
Thank you 😊 I really enjoyed making it and am looking forward to the next one |
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Post by Lord Newport on Feb 26, 2024 19:32:15 GMT
Just so you know, "Jimbo Curry" has been responsible for less than honorable / professional business practices with several members of this forum in the past. Just to make clear for those seeing this thread, "Jimbo Curry" is NOT a sword maker. He "was" a "cutler" who customizes/modifies swords and knives made by others. I think several people are still out $$$ and swords to this day. Hi, Thank you for your specification, but I must raise that this is just why I specified the different parts that make up the sword. I also mentioned that I acquired it second hand. I am well aware of the grievances some people have regarding Jimbo Curry and empathise with them. But having had no first hand experience with him, it is really not my place to make claims. I must also point out that the sword itself is not the point of this thread. I only added a description of it for information and did not see the point of commenting on it further (I didn't comment about the sword's quality either, being aware of the problems some people may have about it). I just wanted to share my work on the scabbard because as a beginner I am proud of it and want to share my experience and learning curve. I am also open to have a discussion aaboutscabbard making if anyone is interested in the method or has constructive feedback or advice. Can we please leave it at that and not start yet another discussion about Curry? 😉 Your new scabbard is beautiful...congrats. I did not meant to take away from your post in that regard. The sword looks great as well. That said, the mention of Jimbo Curry in this forum demands clarification and background transparency given what he has done to / cost various forum members in the past. This is how we make sure it doesn't happen again. In the interests of transparency, I am one of "Jimbo's" victims. |
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Post by erichofprovence on Feb 26, 2024 21:24:19 GMT
Hi, Thank you for your specification, but I must raise that this is just why I specified the different parts that make up the sword. I also mentioned that I acquired it second hand. I am well aware of the grievances some people have regarding Jimbo Curry and empathise with them. But having had no first hand experience with him, it is really not my place to make claims. I must also point out that the sword itself is not the point of this thread. I only added a description of it for information and did not see the point of commenting on it further (I didn't comment about the sword's quality either, being aware of the problems some people may have about it). I just wanted to share my work on the scabbard because as a beginner I am proud of it and want to share my experience and learning curve. I am also open to have a discussion aaboutscabbard making if anyone is interested in the method or has constructive feedback or advice. Can we please leave it at that and not start yet another discussion about Curry? 😉 Your new scabbard is beautiful...congrats. I did not meant to take away from your post in that regard. The sword looks great as well. That said, the mention of Jimbo Curry in this forum demands clarification and background transparency given what he has done to / cost various forum members in the past. This is how we make sure it doesn't happen again. In the interests of transparency, I am one of "Jimbo's" victims. That's fair enough. Hopefully it won't. |
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Post by Lord Newport on Feb 27, 2024 0:35:58 GMT
Erich, you made that scabbard yourself??? I am very impressed that looks to be on the level of DBK's work visually. Have you seen one of their scabbards? If so how would yours differ?
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Post by Greg E on Feb 27, 2024 3:50:58 GMT
Great job! Looks great. I am jealous of your skills.
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Post by erichofprovence on Feb 27, 2024 11:59:36 GMT
Erich, you made that scabbard yourself??? I am very impressed that looks to be on the level of DBK's work visually. Have you seen one of their scabbards? If so how would yours differ? It's very kind of you but I still have a look to improve design-wise to get close to Brian's work. I am probably quite good at hiding my mistakes. It is a learning curve, an I am getting more confident with every new attempt. I have never held one of Brian's scabbards, so I am not 100% sure how he works, but from WIP pics I have seen in the past, I recall that he does the tooling before stitching the leather onto the core. I don't think I could do that and would be too scared to having misaligned tooling. Maybe there is a trick to it, but so far I am much happier doing it my way, which is to stitch the leather first and then do the tooling. One of the problems with this method is that one risks damaging the core, but I have personally never had that issue. Regarding the core, I believe that he uses a solid wooden core, in which he carves the blade's profile (I might be wrong on that). I am not good enough with a chisel to do this. My first two scabbard actually used this method, but I found them too bulky and the fit was a bit rough on a longer blade. Since then I have been using Peter Johnsson's veneer method, which involves using model airplane plywood, which is worked into a veneer and perfectly fits the blade shape (basically 2 or 3 sheets on each side of the blade, glued together and clamped while the glue sets). There is a link to the method ( link). I find it an absolute game changer and results in wonderfully slim and light scabbards that are still very solid. Another key difference is that I am completely incapable of making my own chapes! I'd love to learn how to do it, but at the moment I am working at home on the same desk as my day job and the carpets would not take kindly to anything of the sort. Probably something for another home. But for now I loot cheap scabbards that I get with my swords and daggers and I occasionally splash out on a fancy custom one like on this project. |
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Post by erichofprovence on Feb 27, 2024 12:30:10 GMT
Great job! Looks great. I am jealous of your skills. Nah mate, I love your work! Still really recommend you give the veneer method a try  Regarding the tooling, I do think your scabbards have a fantastic style and more tooling wouldn't necessarily improve them! Also a viking sword with 15th century tooling might look a bit funky (unless you go for some kind of alternative history vibe, where vikings conquered Europe). |
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Post by Greg E on Feb 28, 2024 3:39:30 GMT
Great job! Looks great. I am jealous of your skills. Nah mate, I love your work! Still really recommend you give the veneer method a try Regarding the tooling, I do think your scabbards have a fantastic style and more tooling wouldn't necessarily improve them! Also a viking sword with 15th century tooling might look a bit funky (unless you go for some kind of alternative history vibe, where vikings conquered Europe). Thank you. I haven't been able to find anything I could use locally, veneer wise. I did buy a good amount of poplar planks and am working my way through them. I would like to try a different method at some point. I am working on a scabbard and belt for my Albion Jarl at the moment, I am just waiting on a belt part or two. Otherwise I will need to buy another sword, maybe a Reeve, or make more scabbards for the swords that have other maker's scabbards. |
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Post by erichofprovence on Feb 28, 2024 9:20:23 GMT
Nah mate, I love your work! Still really recommend you give the veneer method a try Regarding the tooling, I do think your scabbards have a fantastic style and more tooling wouldn't necessarily improve them! Also a viking sword with 15th century tooling might look a bit funky (unless you go for some kind of alternative history vibe, where vikings conquered Europe). Thank you. I haven't been able to find anything I could use locally, veneer wise. I did buy a good amount of poplar planks and am working my way through them. I would like to try a different method at some point. I am working on a scabbard and belt for my Albion Jarl at the moment, I am just waiting on a belt part or two. Otherwise I will need to buy another sword, maybe a Reeve, or make more scabbards for the swords that have other maker's scabbards. Ha that's the conundrum! Want to make more scabbards but running out of swords! I am getting there myself, which will give me a great excuse to present to my wife! Oh how I envy you Americans and your easy access to Albion! But then again, I can ear my wallet breathe a sigh of relief... I love the Reeve, it is definitely one of my favourite Albions. Regarding the wood, you can have a look online at model aircraft plywood. I use 0.8mm thick birch plywood. The trick is to find a supplier who makes long enough pieces (although your swords have slightly shorter blades). I get sheets of 0.8 x 1200 x 300mm, which works for any sword I would have and would typically give me enough for a sword and a dagger. |
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Post by pullrich on Feb 28, 2024 14:40:06 GMT
Very fine work!
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Post by crazyjons on Feb 28, 2024 15:54:01 GMT
Where are you buying that very thin birch plywood?
Jon
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Post by erichofprovence on Feb 29, 2024 9:53:41 GMT
Where are you buying that very thin birch plywood? Jon I'm in the UK, so I buy here: www.hobbies.co.uk/quality-birch-plywood and I buy the 0.8 x 1200 x 300mm. 0.8 mm is more than enough and you can have 2 layers on each side of the sword. If you are outside the UK, I'd look in model making shops. Plywood is the main material they use. |
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Post by metinemre on Mar 6, 2024 3:41:17 GMT
Looks amazing, well done.
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Now for the scabbard: This is a felt lined veneer core reinforced with a linen wrap and then wrapped in leather and sewn in the back. The chape is a wonderful design from Matt JR Lewis and made by Matt Bayley from Bayley Heritage Castings. Finally the belt fittings are from Celtic Web Merchant. The tooling is all my own design, although I was inspired by Peter Johnsson's acanthus tendrils design and method (link). 
