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Post by ragebot on Feb 15, 2024 2:12:42 GMT
I read a post in a Facebook group and am clipping and pasting a portion of it. I am trying to find definitions/examples for a lot of these words, especially the different cutting techniques.
do the challenges asked of the contestants at a competition:
-cuts from 7 different angles (descending, ascending, horizontal, vertical)
-cuts with different techniques (zwerchau, Scheilhau, Krumphau, Scheitelhau, etc. etc.)
-false edge cuts
-double and triple cuts
-cuts on moving targets
-cuts after parrying
-small cuts with limited space
-speed cuts
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Post by mrstabby on Feb 15, 2024 6:36:27 GMT
Kane Shen explains the basic and master cuts in his videos, here is one at around 6min.
And here are double (he has other vids with pure double and triple cuts) and butterfly dragonfly
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Post by AndiTheBarvarian on Feb 15, 2024 7:34:20 GMT
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Post by ragebot on Feb 19, 2024 20:22:50 GMT
Thanks guys this was really an eye opener for me.
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Post by ragebot on Feb 19, 2024 22:10:53 GMT
Sad to say I can't seem to break my habit of reading stuff in Facebook forums and came across a discussion about the definition of a sword. I have cut and pasted part of a long rant about someone's definition of a sword below:
"I have to point out that the British collectioner Oakshott and the Soviet reconstructor Kirpichnikov in 1970s drew a complete conclusion on that. Independently from each other, but systems appeared to be identical. A sword – straight blade, two edges, anything sufficiently longer than 30 cm (because certain daggers, like parrying ones, could reach up to 32 cm) and wider than or equal to 3 cm, anything less is a rapier/sidesword."
This was in response to a post of mine saying there is not agreement on the definition of a sword. I have never seen claims that a sword had to have a straight blade and two edges or a minimum width. I consider my Kreigsmesser, wakizashi, and katanas swords even though they have curves and one edge and this seems to be something a lot of folks have agreed with.
Does anyone know if Oakshott or Kirpichnikov hold some level of status that makes their claims correct and maybe more to the point where does one go about finding more about what the definition of a sword is.
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Post by randomnobody on Feb 19, 2024 22:21:47 GMT
I've never heard of Kirpichnikov, but Oakeshott is considered one of the foremost names in sword studies, especially famous for his European sword typologies.
There's a lot of history to "swords" having two edges, versus single-edge blades being considered "knives" etc, but I don't think it's a particularly solidified idea. Many cultures and languages differentiate the two, see dao/jian etc, but in modern vernacular it's less important.
A "sword" is something every culture defines differently, but it's easier to agree that "a sword" is not "a knife" and vice versa.
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Post by AndiTheBarvarian on Feb 20, 2024 3:01:04 GMT
Here's some nice stuff to read: www.tf.uni-kiel.de/matwis/amat/iss/kap_2/backbone/r2_1_1.htmlFollow the hyperlinks too! ...aaaand beer: www.tf.uni-kiel.de/matwis/amat/iss/kap_2/advanced/t2_1_7.htmlThe term "sword" hasn't one commonly accepted definition, all depends on the context. To differ it from knives more or less each longer blade is a sword. To differ it from sabers it needs a straight blade (except in France). To differ it from a rapier (espada ropera = dress sword) it needs serious cutting ability. Single edge backswords, Scottish broadswords, sideswords. And what's about other less Germanic languages?
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