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Post by pbrowne on Jan 3, 2024 7:07:30 GMT
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Post by madirish on Jan 3, 2024 22:44:45 GMT
The blade poincoins and the mfr/date on the spine appear proper. The K is for Director Krantz, who was there then. The L is for Reviseur Lobstein, and that fits the date range, too. The B has me scratchign my head a bit though. Since it is badly stamped, it is hard to tell....but it looks like it might be a B with a star over it.....which would be For director who came in in 1814 and would be on sword in place of Krantz, not with, i think. The third stamp should be a B with a wreath around it for jean-George Bick or a sort of cursive B for Phillipe Bick in that time frame, i think. Someone else may be more knowledgeable than me....
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Post by ilvalto on Jan 5, 2024 18:59:40 GMT
I think the book "armes blanches" from Lhoste-Buigne describes that briquet exactly on page 240 as "briquet de l'an XI"- K for Krantz - B marked with some foliage, mark for J.G Bick, and L for Lobstein
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Post by pbrowne on Jan 5, 2024 21:48:08 GMT
Many thanks Madirish and Ilvalto. I have just acquired the briquete/lighter from the Belgium dealer. Could well be a Waterloo piece.
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Post by madirish on Jan 5, 2024 22:01:08 GMT
Yeah, now that I look at it closer, I guess the wreath is there around the B....tough to see.
Out of curiosity, how much did it set you back?
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Post by pbrowne on Jan 5, 2024 22:02:50 GMT
The blade poincoins and the mfr/date on the spine appear proper. The K is for Director Krantz, who was there then. The L is for Reviseur Lobstein, and that fits the date range, too. The B has me scratchign my head a bit though. Since it is badly stamped, it is hard to tell....but it looks like it might be a B with a star over it.....which would be For director who came in in 1814 and would be on sword in place of Krantz, not with, i think. The third stamp should be a B with a wreath around it for jean-George Bick or a sort of cursive B for Phillipe Bick in that time frame, i think. Someone else may be more knowledgeable than me.... Thanks. What reference is the table from?
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Post by madirish on Jan 5, 2024 22:13:51 GMT
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Post by pbrowne on Jan 6, 2024 5:16:15 GMT
The blade poincoins and the mfr/date on the spine appear proper. The K is for Director Krantz, who was there then. The L is for Reviseur Lobstein, and that fits the date range, too. The B has me scratchign my head a bit though. Since it is badly stamped, it is hard to tell....but it looks like it might be a B with a star over it.....which would be For director who came in in 1814 and would be on sword in place of Krantz, not with, i think. The third stamp should be a B with a wreath around it for jean-George Bick or a sort of cursive B for Phillipe Bick in that time frame, i think. Someone else may be more knowledgeable than me.... Thanks. What reference is the table from? 750 euros + 265 euros shipping to Perth Western Australia Expensive? Possibly, but for a potential Waterloo piece from a Dealer in antiques only from Belgium? Also I have not seen one in as good condition, but have not been looking for one specifically. I have a deepish interest in Napoleon First Empire, having walked all over the Waterloo battlefield and paint Napoleonic figures. Also a collector in these types of things…
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Post by pbrowne on Jan 6, 2024 5:26:06 GMT
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Post by pbrowne on Jan 6, 2024 5:39:35 GMT
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Post by sabre on Jan 8, 2024 7:22:46 GMT
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Post by pbrowne on Jan 8, 2024 12:45:39 GMT
The Versailles poincons on the hilt are B for J.J.C.Bureau Director 1812-1813 and the L.F poincon J.B.Le Febvre controller 1811-1813. I dont think the scabbard is first empire as the bottom mount and poincons do not look right here are pics of a first empire scabbard to compare. Mmm. On my scabbard there is Lobstein, which could be between 1804 and 1829. I don't know what the broadarrow is for...military acceptance? On your scabbard there is LR, and I don't see that on the Poincons de Klingenthal table at www.passionmilitaria.com/t228165-les-poincons-de-la-manufacture-de-klingenthalPerhaps a different manufactory? B* on yours I guess could be Borson from 1814.
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