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Post by izzy on Dec 3, 2023 15:14:54 GMT
Exactly why I don't let ppl come close to my swords anymore. I've seen ppl who failed to obey the only instructions I've given them, which was NOT TO TOUCH THE BLADE, or NOT CUT AT THINGS, or NOT KNOCK IT DOWN! I don't believe in people anymore. When it comes to the unvetted masses, yes, keep a close eye on them. One never knows who might help you, or harm you.
I've seen the most unlikely strangers be helpful ( return a Credit card that fell to the ground) and yet been betrayed by relatives who were close to me ( at one time), simply because I wont betray family when the Kebosh was lowered. The Moral code of most people is subject to change via Circumstances.
It is said that Man ( of any Religion, Race or creed) is liked a Bull that is known to gore ( a dangerous being that is not predictable and one should be careful). The secret is to be friendly without letting ones guard down, which is easier said than done.
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Post by karasunoir on Dec 4, 2023 9:36:06 GMT
I have a lot of swords and display them. My girlfriend and i have made a "museum" like wall of sorts, with smal signs next to the swords with some info. Most of them are also behind glass, or a bit higher up. Pretty mutch all guest have reacted well (or sometimes not at all) to the collection. They just note that we are huge nerds.
I think as long as you make a bit of effort to show people that they are not just laying around ready to be used, its ok. Some basic "safety measures" are probably nice to. If any of my guest wants to hold a sword, they have to follow some rules, and i have to trust them. Most people think swords are just weapons, but if you show how they can be nice art, or history pieces, that will probably calm a lot of people down. Its a lot of stigma against it. A lot of people have probably only heard about weapon collectors from tv shows and the news, where they are shown as unhinged loons.
Other than that i think it realy does not matter that mutch. If people think we are weird/wackos or something, then they are the boring one.
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Post by rschuch on Dec 5, 2023 19:51:21 GMT
I bet it depends a lot on where you live. If you live in UK for example, or any place where the media make the people fear everything you could use ad a weapon, you shold probably be very careful with new people. I know, I like to be with people who are pretty similar to me, but even people who aren't interested in firearms will want to see them when they get to know you own one. OTF knives are a bit different, people will look at you funny when you pull it out, but give it to them and they won't stop playing with it. Firearms are more ubiquitous and therefore a bit less shock value here, also you need to keep them safe, they can't just hang on the wall. But honestly, if I let you in my home, you better know me enough to not be shocked by blades being littered everywhere. It's funny, I'm not a firearms guy and they make me uncomfortable, but the friends I have that are into them and collect them love to show them off and hand them to me. I like the older ones because I'm into the historical nature of them, but modern guns just creep me out. But why they're so much more accepted than swords doesn't make sense to me. Yeah, maybe you could cut yourself if you're not careful, but accidental shootings happen all the time ("I didn't know it was loaded") and one slip could kill someone unintentionally. With a sword or dagger, it's going to be intentional if anything happens. It's just the psychology of it. I have pocket knives too and get a lot of funny looks if I need to use one because I carry 4"+ pocket swords, mainly flippers and autos.
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Post by curiomansion on Dec 5, 2023 19:53:31 GMT
rschuch I think the biggest issue with the coffee table is that it renders the coffee table hard to use. So if guests are over they'll feel like they have to sit "around" the blades, which never makes you feel at home. Otherwise it's cool!
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Post by toddstratton1 on Dec 5, 2023 19:59:08 GMT
I would showcase maybe a few swords in a place people who come by can see them, but I too many to just showcase everything without looking weird. I would find it funny to have a collection like Dave Kellys and put it in the living room
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Post by rschuch on Dec 5, 2023 20:03:46 GMT
rschuch I think the biggest issue with the coffee table is that it renders the coffee table hard to use. So if guests are over they'll feel like they have to sit "around" the blades, which never makes you feel at home. Otherwise it's cool! Yeah, I'm considering putting a wood or foam core platform under the glass top and setting them inside, maybe putting some hinges along the edge so I can lift it up if necessary. But seeing the floor through the glass table makes it less "solid" and intrusive, if you know what I mean, so putting a solid object there will make that area seem a lot "heavier". And as I said before, it's really just me anyway, I don't have guests other than the girlfriend. But it IS nice to be able to put up your feet or set a plate or cup down there. Just taking the two tall katana displays down helped a lot already, so I'll give it a try. Not sure how I'll affix the hinges to the glass top...I don't think double stick tape will be strong enough.
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Post by rschuch on Dec 5, 2023 20:12:05 GMT
I would showcase maybe a few swords in a place people who come by can see them, but I too many to just showcase everything without looking weird. I would find it funny to have a collection like Dave Kellys and put it in the living room ...or Philippe Goulet Attachments:
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Post by mrstabby on Dec 5, 2023 20:21:24 GMT
I bet it depends a lot on where you live. If you live in UK for example, or any place where the media make the people fear everything you could use ad a weapon, you shold probably be very careful with new people. I know, I like to be with people who are pretty similar to me, but even people who aren't interested in firearms will want to see them when they get to know you own one. OTF knives are a bit different, people will look at you funny when you pull it out, but give it to them and they won't stop playing with it. Firearms are more ubiquitous and therefore a bit less shock value here, also you need to keep them safe, they can't just hang on the wall. But honestly, if I let you in my home, you better know me enough to not be shocked by blades being littered everywhere. It's funny, I'm not a firearms guy and they make me uncomfortable, but the friends I have that are into them and collect them love to show them off and hand them to me. I like the older ones because I'm into the historical nature of them, but modern guns just creep me out. But why they're so much more accepted than swords doesn't make sense to me. Yeah, maybe you could cut yourself if you're not careful, but accidental shootings happen all the time ("I didn't know it was loaded") and one slip could kill someone unintentionally. With a sword or dagger, it's going to be intentional if anything happens. It's just the psychology of it. I have pocket knives too and get a lot of funny looks if I need to use one because I carry 4"+ pocket swords, mainly flippers and autos. Yeah, no idea why this is the case. Though you need to rephrase, you will definately cut yourself when you handle blades long enough, in my opinion a cut finger is infinately more likely than a negligent discharge. A negligent discharge is infinately more dangerous, I agree.
It does depend on where you live a lot. I grew up in a small town, everyone was a hunter or at least related to one, nobody would look at you twice running around with a 10" knife on your belt.
Now I live in a city, where you definately get dirty looks for any bigger pocket knife. Though I have begun to like it Firearms are a whole another matter here, since nobody carries besides cops.
May I ask, why do firearms make you uneasy?
I think swords are just such a niche thing now, there are probably only a few sword owners for every 100 gun owners in the US or Europe. More people have/do something means it's more OK in society.
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Post by mrstabby on Dec 5, 2023 20:24:01 GMT
rschuch I think the biggest issue with the coffee table is that it renders the coffee table hard to use. So if guests are over they'll feel like they have to sit "around" the blades, which never makes you feel at home. Otherwise it's cool! Yeah, I'm considering putting a wood or foam core platform under the glass top and setting them inside, maybe putting some hinges along the edge so I can lift it up if necessary. But seeing the floor through the glass table makes it less "solid" and intrusive, if you know what I mean, so putting a solid object there will make that area seem a lot "heavier". And as I said before, it's really just me anyway, I don't have guests other than the girlfriend. But it IS nice to be able to put up your feet or set a plate or cup down there. Just taking the two tall katana displays down helped a lot already, so I'll give it a try. Not sure how I'll affix the hinges to the glass top...I don't think double stick tape will be strong enough. There are some special hinges for glass, which you can tighten on via a set screw.
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Post by rschuch on Dec 5, 2023 20:39:42 GMT
Yeah, I'm considering putting a wood or foam core platform under the glass top and setting them inside, maybe putting some hinges along the edge so I can lift it up if necessary. But seeing the floor through the glass table makes it less "solid" and intrusive, if you know what I mean, so putting a solid object there will make that area seem a lot "heavier". And as I said before, it's really just me anyway, I don't have guests other than the girlfriend. But it IS nice to be able to put up your feet or set a plate or cup down there. Just taking the two tall katana displays down helped a lot already, so I'll give it a try. Not sure how I'll affix the hinges to the glass top...I don't think double stick tape will be strong enough. There are some special hinges for glass, which you can tighten on via a set screw. I'll have to make a trip to the hardware store and see what I can find. Two hinges and a handle will work. And yes, it is easy to cut yourself if you're messing with them or cleaning them and not careful. As for why I don't like guns? Loud noise, big recoil, too easy to kill someone. Gun violence is a thing...sword violence is not. To me it's just not an elegant weapon. Maybe there's a psychological component as well for crime. I do have one gun, my great grandfather's .22 rifle given to me by my dad last year. It is NOT loaded and sits in a corner in my bedroom and I'd love to give it back. It IS fun for target shooting though and the one I use of we go to a range.
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Post by mrstabby on Dec 5, 2023 21:09:23 GMT
Sword violence might not be a thing, machete violence very much so unfortunately. Never got the "elegance" in any weapon to be honest, a sword is a more brutal weapon in my eyes because it's close and very messy. Poking small holes into someone from afar does not seem so bad in contrast... It's all about viewpoint: Do you see the weapon aspect first, the history, the aestethics? If people see "the weapon made for killing people" most clearly in something, it will make them uncomfortable I guess. It's all just a piece of metal and wood in the end. Edit: Not harping on you, everybody has dislikes, just what I think might be the reason for many people finding some weapons more disagreeable. The people in the village saw a knife primarily as a tool, the city folk seem to see it as a danger to them when I cut my packing tape for some reason (even though it's a very small city).
Be careful, if the table is tempered glass (which it likely is) you can't drill holes into it. If it's laminated glass, you can pick up diamond drills which work well, but I'd stick to the clamp on stuff. You still need to be careful, firstly not to overtighten the screws and to lift the glass evenly when you open the showcase. I might put on 2 handles, depending on how much it bows when you lift it at one end.
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Post by curiomansion on Dec 5, 2023 21:31:37 GMT
I would showcase maybe a few swords in a place people who come by can see them, but I too many to just showcase everything without looking weird. I would find it funny to have a collection like Dave Kellys and put it in the living room ...or Philippe Goulet That room looks amazing. A few $100 in moody lighting, and it'll feel straight out of a fantasy novel.
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Post by rschuch on Dec 5, 2023 22:29:54 GMT
Sword violence might not be a thing, machete violence very much so unfortunately. Never got the "elegance" in any weapon to be honest, a sword is a more brutal weapon in my eyes because it's close and very messy. Poking small holes into someone from afar does not seem so bad in contrast... It's all about viewpoint: Do you see the weapon aspect first, the history, the aestethics? If people see "the weapon made for killing people" most clearly in something, it will make them uncomfortable I guess. It's all just a piece of metal and wood in the end. Edit: Not harping on you, everybody has dislikes, just what I think might be the reason for many people finding some weapons more disagreeable. The people in the village saw a knife primarily as a tool, the city folk seem to see it as a danger to them when I cut my packing tape for some reason (even though it's a very small city). Be careful, if the table is tempered glass (which it likely is) you can't drill holes into it. If it's laminated glass, you can pick up diamond drills which work well, but I'd stick to the clamp on stuff. You still need to be careful, firstly not to overtighten the screws and to lift the glass evenly when you open the showcase. I might put on 2 handles, depending on how much it bows when you lift it at one end. To me the sword has a romance to it. It has to do with the fantasy books I read too (LotR, Arthurian legends, Elric, etc.), but come on, "Behold the sword of POWER!" To have a weapon that is your destiny to wield and bring peace to a warring land? Yes, aesthetically it's just a sharp piece of metal in the end, but the shape and size say so much about the time in which someone carried it. And I've read most battles were fought with pole arms, bows and axes, so the sword is really more of a personal self defense weapon, and it's a martial art. Lots of techniques depending on your weapon of choice and to have the outcome based on your skill, there's something to that. To just point and pull a trigger to me is just crude and easy. But that's me. I know there's a lot of people on here that love their guns. To each his own. And no, I'm not drilling into the glass. I found some clear acrylic piano hinges and a flush mounted handle that should work with minimal invasive work to my table. Just need a piece of basswood or foamcore and some red velvet for underneath. Attachments:
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Post by skelley on Dec 5, 2023 23:21:05 GMT
I'm kinda in the same boat as you rschuch . Not a gun guy at all but I won't usually bat an eye if someone has a shotgun or hunting rifle. Hunting was never a thing in my family but plenty of folks here do go hunting. Just thankfully just not anywhere near where I live. Pistols do put me on edge though. I remember when my sister and I were going to this hookah bar near me while she was visiting and one night while we were chatting with some of the regulars we caught a flash of silver from the side. One of their friends pulled out his pistol while talking to another fellow to show it off or something. For a second or two I thought someone was about to get shot. Gave us a bit of a freight. I just didn't think it was good manners or gun safety to just whip it out like that, especially with strangers like us in the mix. I don't know, maybe I'm being a tad dramatic but it didn't leave me a good impression of that particular individual. On a cooler note, my uncle is a champion black powder shooter and I have thrown out the idea about going to the range with him and my cousin for beginner friendly shooting but life gets in the way. He also has a small number of historical guns like an M1 Garand. It always surprises me how heavy that sucker feels. With that diatribe out of the way, if I ever did get into shooting I've always thought that a bolt action rifle would be quite fun.
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Post by eastman on Dec 6, 2023 1:32:18 GMT
that looks like a good start
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Post by rschuch on Dec 6, 2023 1:45:59 GMT
With that diatribe out of the way, if I ever did get into shooting I've always thought that a bolt action rifle would be quite fun. The .22 I have is bolt action (Marlin 81DL) and yeah, its fun. I have a non-functional 1870 Enfield on my wall as well. People carrying guns freaks me out. I carry a knife but I use it all the time for anything from food to packages. If you carry a gun, it's for one reason, and that scares me. Road rage is very real here. If I ever got a pistol I think a black powder would be cool, maybe a long barrel Colt 1871 open top. I love the look of those.
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Post by mrstabby on Dec 6, 2023 7:43:31 GMT
Might be different for me since guns aren't used for self defense here, nobody can carry except for very specific circumstances. Pistols and rifles are used for hunting, stort shooting and collecting. Maybe 1-2 people a year get shot in the country, and every time it's in Vienna. I use a small hanging cabinet with glass doors for my collection knives, my EDC knives sit in a box, so I can get at them when I want to. If I had more wallspace I'd hang a second one for the daggers, but wife said I must stay inside the bedroom, no infecting of the kitchen. Right now the daggers hang double and triple stacked on a sword rack. It's not that there are that many, it's only a 4 space rack where the swords were in the beginning, until there were too many. They seem to breed (if only!). I'd love to have a cabinet/showcase for the swords, but I found none of the right size, so it's a rack for them.
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Post by rschuch on Dec 6, 2023 13:03:09 GMT
I'm in Florida so it's open season for guns.
And yes, they do seem to breed! I was just looking at an old post of mine from 2021 when I was looking for suggestions on how to display the 5 swords I had on my bare walls...before things got out of hand.
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Post by madirish on Dec 6, 2023 14:52:03 GMT
It's funny, I'm not a firearms guy and they make me uncomfortable, but the friends I have that are into them and collect them love to show them off and hand them to me. I like the older ones because I'm into the historical nature of them, but modern guns just creep me out. But why they're so much more accepted than swords doesn't make sense to me. Yeah, maybe you could cut yourself if you're not careful, but accidental shootings happen all the time ("I didn't know it was loaded") and one slip could kill someone unintentionally. With a sword or dagger, it's going to be intentional if anything happens. It's just the psychology of it. I have pocket knives too and get a lot of funny looks if I need to use one because I carry 4"+ pocket swords, mainly flippers and autos. Yeah...I dunno, I walked into a place with a coffee table display of guns....I'd be even more uncomfortable than in the case of your display...and I am a firearms guy. Any display of working modern firearms just open to easy pickup (whether on walls or tables) in, say, the living room, would definitely weird me out and I probably would not be back. Old non functioning antiques...fine. Some rifles in a locked cabinet, ok.
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Post by rschuch on Dec 7, 2023 3:11:08 GMT
I put a piece of cardboard in for now. This is what it looks like. I got some nice wood planks to fit where the cardboard is but it'll have to wait until this weekend when I have time. Attachments:
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