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Post by AndiTheBarvarian on Nov 4, 2023 23:00:26 GMT
So what? Your attacker has two D-Guard Bowies, the short saber ones like the Windlass. What would you want to have in your hands?
Edit: Ok, no guns!
Edit: ...or flamethrowers!
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Post by Eric Bergeron on Nov 5, 2023 2:56:18 GMT
I could go with either 1) Katana, 2) two kukri's to match against his two D-Guard bowie or 3) two Wakizashi's.
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Post by ghost on Nov 5, 2023 6:53:53 GMT
flamethrower
maybe spear/ axe and shield?
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Post by markus313 on Nov 5, 2023 10:13:33 GMT
In open space, he will be very vulnerable to cuts below the waist. So any longer blade will do. He will not be able to block an axe. In confined spaces, I’d choose a short spear or a ninjato/ko-katana. The long grip will power through most of his parries, the longer reach will keep him on the defensive.
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Post by mrstabby on Nov 5, 2023 10:50:46 GMT
Is a clay pot filled with greek fire/napalm classified as forbidden?
A long reach weapon would be best, a shield and arming sword second place.
EDIT: After handling mine again markus313 has a point, its blocking potential feels relatively weak, so you might be able to break through parries with heavy blows.
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Post by pellius on Nov 5, 2023 18:57:15 GMT
Guan dao, spear, or even just a proper staff would work. I don’t know how to properly use a rapier, but I’d probably be okay with that, too. Cav saber from horseback should be fine. Viking sword with a boss-held shield would be good. I could even go for a kriegsmesser or Swiss saber.
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Post by Eric Bergeron on Nov 5, 2023 19:54:17 GMT
Guan dao, spear, or even just a proper staff would work. I don’t know how to properly use a rapier, but I’d probably be okay with that, too. Cav saber from horseback should be fine. Viking sword with a boss-held shield would be good. I could even go for a kriegsmesser or Swiss saber. I was going to be upset with you if you didn't mention a messer at least once :)
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Post by pellius on Nov 5, 2023 21:45:55 GMT
Ha! I wouldn’t leave out My Precious!
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Post by izzy on Nov 15, 2023 18:54:48 GMT
2 Pompeii style Gladius...no contest.
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Post by AndiTheBarvarian on Nov 15, 2023 19:14:42 GMT
What about two rapiers?
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Post by howler on Nov 16, 2023 1:08:21 GMT
Just about any longer length one handed sword and a large shield would do. Rapier with offhand dagger with good hand guard. Just about any pole arm or long bladed spear (in open field with room, of course). A saber/cutlass with bowie/toothpick dagger in off hand.
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Post by izzy on Nov 16, 2023 7:32:25 GMT
I would be concerned the attacker might get under my guard and be too close to use 2 rapiers. 2 Gladii would be ideal IMHO as you can pull it back say 12" / 30.5 cm if an attacker got too close for comfort and then thrust...the second Gladius could go the the sternum or hip ( high or low depending on desired aim) in the hopes the blade does not penetrates too deeply, and it keeps the attacker just far enough away to keep from getting cut too badly from the attacker to make the thrust with the first Gladius that "does the trick".
I would presume that any double bladed attacker has some training or experience, and you are not the first intended target of such an attacker. Obviously this is a purely hypothetical situation at this point in time. As for now, we don't usually get to carry what we want. 2 D Guard Bowies can be hidden on a person, giving such an attacker a distinct advantage.
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Post by AndiTheBarvarian on Nov 16, 2023 9:01:25 GMT
In principle I see these possibilities: 1. One long, two handed weapon, longsword, polearm. 2. One handed weapon & free hand for grappling. 3. One handed weapon & shield/buckler. 4. One handed weapon and a shorter weapon offhand. 5. Two longer one handed weapons in both hands (f.e. a case of rapiers). 6. Two shorter one handed weapons in both hands.
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Post by ugandanknuckkles on Nov 16, 2023 10:22:22 GMT
I'd definitely bring quite a lot of javelins
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Post by izzy on Nov 16, 2023 19:26:50 GMT
In principle I see these possibilities: 1. One long, two handed weapon, longsword, polearm. 2. One handed weapon & free hand for grappling. 3. One handed weapon & shield/buckler. 4. One handed weapon and a shorter weapon offhand. 5. Two longer one handed weapons in both hands (f.e. a case of rapiers). 6. Two shorter one handed weapons in both hands. #2 would be the most difficult option...still possible to dispatch the attacker, also quite possible to get cut badly. If the aggressor has the mentality "expect to get cut in a blade fight", even running him through with a larger blade may just bring him closer for a strike. So much depends on the mentality of both attacker and defender.
#1 I would hope the spear has decent Lugs.
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Post by howler on Nov 16, 2023 21:52:21 GMT
In principle I see these possibilities: 1. One long, two handed weapon, longsword, polearm. 2. One handed weapon & free hand for grappling. 3. One handed weapon & shield/buckler. 4. One handed weapon and a shorter weapon offhand. 5. Two longer one handed weapons in both hands (f.e. a case of rapiers). 6. Two shorter one handed weapons in both hands. I like the thinking of this breakdown. I believe #5 (two longer one hand weapons) to be the most problematic, but maybe the weapon in the weak hand you could have the ability to wield close in or choke up on and shorten to deal with adversary getting inside long weapon range. One would also have to go into specifics on what type of weapon for the #2 (one handed weapon & free hand), as that would be a huge variable.
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Post by Murffy on Nov 22, 2023 18:44:35 GMT
I'm pretty sure dual wielding anything would not go well for me, so spear would be my first choice followed by sword and shield (assuming missile weapons are out).
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Post by izzy on Nov 22, 2023 18:45:42 GMT
In open space, he will be very vulnerable to cuts below the waist. So any longer blade will do. He will not be able to block an axe. In confined spaces, I’d choose a short spear or a ninjato/ko-katana. The long grip will power through most of his parries, the longer reach will keep him on the defensive. Spears are so overlooked, I would love to find a spear like the one Lutel used to make that was called a Couse- Kuse ( french spear) that was made with quality and pride.
I agree if one had a spear it should be on a short haft in such a situation ( most likely urban?). Ko-katana is an interesting option, maybe one could also consider a lighter full sized Katana just for reach with a Waki for defense (Musashi style).
Now I'm going to sound like a dolt, but until recently I did not know the blade length on the windlass was 18" ( sorry just never much into windlass), so If I went with 2 gladii it would have to be longer versions ( 21 inch minimum). Body build comes to mind, and a shorter person would want more reach than a gladius.
A crouching leg / hip thrust or cut sounds like a good idea that could end the fight...or not... --------- Just a side note on real life bladed violence:
As a former girlfriend once corrected me saying "Britain is not Europe", fair enough, but I think this is a more likely possibility, a big knife/ machete wielding thug, with plenty of friends who may just kick the snot out of anyone in their way:
Most of us are "law abiding citizens" so the odds of us walking around with large blades is close to nill in most countries these days, that being said it behooves us to do what we can to protect ourselves, and try making friends ( or at least being polite). Avoidance is the best survival skill. When it can't be avoided, you'd better have something.
Not trying to Hijack this thread, so if you want to continue the conversation on current conditions, let's do it via PM.
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Post by Zen_Hydra on Dec 11, 2023 19:03:11 GMT
A polearm would be my choice. A nice spear should make quick work of anyone armed with a couple big knives (or short swords). There are obviously exceptions, but statistically a spear will come out on top more often than not.
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