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Post by rusty68us on Oct 8, 2023 16:34:22 GMT
I am cleaning this up for a friend. The piece came from his deceased grandmother’s home. I was originally thinking it was a copy, but now that I have gotten cleaned up, I am wondering if it is original and quite old… I have zero knowledge on swords, I was just doing this for a friend as a favor. Can anyone shed some light on what I have . Thanks so much
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Post by pellius on Oct 8, 2023 16:47:54 GMT
Welcome to the forum.
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Post by pellius on Oct 8, 2023 16:50:09 GMT
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Post by tera on Oct 8, 2023 16:54:48 GMT
Step one, stop cleaning it up if you think it's authentic. Improper care/restoration can harm value.
Step two, follow the instructions linked above to post photos, or use a 3rd party image host of your choice and post links.
We have people who specialize in a variety of sword types. Maybe we can help!
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Post by rusty68us on Oct 9, 2023 1:37:40 GMT
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Post by AndiTheBarvarian on Oct 9, 2023 3:53:32 GMT
Better post this again in the Renaissance and Military Swords section, the people there with the knowledge might overlook it in the Beginners Section.
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Post by pgandy on Oct 9, 2023 12:45:29 GMT
I strongly suggest that you follow Tera’s advice and stop cleaning for reasons he stated. It would be helpful to photograph all stampings and other marks and add those to your post. Welcome.
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Post by rusty68us on Oct 9, 2023 13:23:36 GMT
I strongly suggest that you follow Tera’s advice and stop cleaning for reasons he stated. It would be helpful to photograph all stampings and other marks and add those to your post. Welcome. Thank you very much, I will post them this evening
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Post by mrstabby on Oct 9, 2023 16:43:53 GMT
So, I don't know if you have noticed, but there seems to be a crack to the right of the "G" proof mark continuing into the bevel of the blade, so be extra careful.
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Post by pgandy on Oct 9, 2023 17:36:36 GMT
Good observation mrstabby.
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Post by bas on Oct 9, 2023 20:34:41 GMT
Hello Rusty, you have an interesting Britsh sabre there with some interesting features. At first glance, I'd say the hilt is typical for officer swords in the late 18th Century, with the stirrup hilt, side ring guard and cushion pommel. However, seeing these hilts with 1786 regulation straight blades is much more common. Have you checked if the guard is silver or steel? The grip is reeded ivory, another common feature of British officer swords, and if you are in the UK, this sword is illegal to sell because the ivory content falls outside of the less than 10% by volume rule. The blade appears to be from a 1796 Pattern light cavalry officer sword, but measurements would help narrow it down. The G stamp is Henry Orsborns' mark, used from 1800 to 1820. Looking at what remains of the decorations, I think it's from the earlier end of that range. I'm concerned that this hilt and blade are a later marriage, but it was a period of personal expression amongst officers of the militia and volunteer regiments so it could be original. Have a look at these videos from Nick Thomas of the Academy of Historical Fencing:
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Post by rusty68us on Oct 10, 2023 12:03:09 GMT
Hello Rusty, you have an interesting Britsh sabre there with some interesting features. At first glance, I'd say the hilt is typical for officer swords in the late 18th Century, with the stirrup hilt, side ring guard and cushion pommel. However, seeing these hilts with 1786 regulation straight blades is much more common. Have you checked if the guard is silver or steel? The grip is reeded ivory, another common feature of British officer swords, and if you are in the UK, this sword is illegal to sell because the ivory content falls outside of the less than 10% by volume rule. The blade appears to be from a 1796 Pattern light cavalry officer sword, but measurements would help narrow it down. The G stamp is Henry Orsborns' mark, used from 1800 to 1820. Looking at what remains of the decorations, I think it's from the earlier end of that range. I'm concerned that this hilt and blade are a later marriage, but it was a period of personal expression amongst officers of the militia and volunteer regiments so it could be original. Have a look at these videos from Nick Thomas of the Academy of Historical Fencing:
Thank you for all the great information, I appreciate it. I will post measurements tonight. I am on the East Coast in the US. I am nearly positive the Hilt is Silver. I will try and post photos of the other etchings, but one of them is an Eagle carrying a banner with the words E Pluribus Unum on the banner.
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