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Post by tomvo on Sept 4, 2023 14:18:31 GMT
Hello all, i recently bought a "Nihonto" katana from an online auction site. The shop that was presenting this sword was legit and had good reviews, everything seemed ok but after receiving it back home the little paranoid boy in me started doubting a few things. I could not find any answers or good advise on the internet that is why I am raising these questions here. Hopefully you guys can help me out. 1. first picture: the hada is visually noticeable but can also be felt as little dents/wrinkles inside of the blade's surface. Is this normal? 2. second picture: the kissaki and cutting edge of the blade has a darker/greyish colour. seems a bit odd or not? 3. third picture: the blade is signed "Kenpaku Yasutoshi". apparently a well known sword smith in Japan. shouldn't there be NBTHK papers for this blade if it really was made by this sword smith? thanks in advance everyone!!
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Post by MessengerofDarkness on Sept 4, 2023 15:35:52 GMT
The hada looks nice, although the nakago looks a bit off to me. If it hasn't been cleaned then I'm surprised by how little rust it would have as a Nihonto, unless it is supposed to be a modern-made Shinsakuto. Just off the bat it doesn't quite look like a Komonjo blade to me, though I could be wrong. Others would have to chime in that know more than me.
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Post by tomvo on Sept 4, 2023 16:57:23 GMT
Hello what do you mean with Komonjo blade?
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Post by treeslicer on Sept 4, 2023 17:06:29 GMT
Hello all, i recently bought a "Nihonto" katana from an online auction site. The shop that was presenting this sword was legit and had good reviews, everything seemed ok but after receiving it back home the little paranoid boy in me started doubting a few things. I could not find any answers or good advise on the internet that is why I am raising these questions here. Hopefully you guys can help me out. 1. first picture: the hada is visually noticeable but can also be felt as little dents/wrinkles inside of the blade's surface. Is this normal? 2. second picture: the kissaki and cutting edge of the blade has a darker/greyish colour. seems a bit odd or not? 3. third picture: the blade is signed "Kenpaku Yasutoshi". apparently a well known sword smith in Japan. shouldn't there be NBTHK papers for this blade if it really was made by this sword smith? thanks in advance everyone!! Hello what do you mean with Komonjo blade?
1. Not common historically, but you sometimes see this effect with modern "art sword smiths".
2. Nope. Depends on both the smith and the polisher.
3. NO!!!! NBTHK does NOT issue paper for LIVING smiths.
Would you please post more of your excellent quality photos. I would like to see full length views of both sides, including other side of nakago.
At this point I cannot rule out this blade being an early work of this smith.
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Post by treeslicer on Sept 4, 2023 18:35:05 GMT
There are some of these online.
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Post by tomvo on Sept 4, 2023 19:04:37 GMT
Indeed found some online but without the intel i needed haha. Will take some pictures tomorrow when the sun is up, gives better quality pics. Thanks again for answering this fast guys! The sword is indeed estimated around 1989 so i guess the smith is still alive. I bought the sword on catawiki.com if someone wants to know. The dealer i bought is from is called SupeinNihonto. Seemed legit but as i said, the critic/paranoid in me started questioning some things, let's call it lack of fundamental knowledge. I paid 2400 euro for it (+/- 2500 dollars), hopefully didn't waste my money!
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Post by larason2 on Sept 4, 2023 22:22:33 GMT
The appearance looks consistent with a Japanese made blade by a skilled smith relatively recently. The wavy lines of the hada can be normal, and the "grey" kissaki past the yokote line is normal as well. As stated, NBTHK doesn't paper swords if the smith is still living. Nice piece!
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Post by tomvo on Sept 10, 2023 14:51:25 GMT
Hello all, i recently bought a "Nihonto" katana from an online auction site. The shop that was presenting this sword was legit and had good reviews, everything seemed ok but after receiving it back home the little paranoid boy in me started doubting a few things. I could not find any answers or good advise on the internet that is why I am raising these questions here. Hopefully you guys can help me out. 1. first picture: the hada is visually noticeable but can also be felt as little dents/wrinkles inside of the blade's surface. Is this normal? 2. second picture: the kissaki and cutting edge of the blade has a darker/greyish colour. seems a bit odd or not? 3. third picture: the blade is signed "Kenpaku Yasutoshi". apparently a well known sword smith in Japan. shouldn't there be NBTHK papers for this blade if it really was made by this sword smith? thanks in advance everyone!! Hello what do you mean with Komonjo blade?
1. Not common historically, but you sometimes see this effect with modern "art sword smiths".
2. Nope. Depends on both the smith and the polisher.
3. NO!!!! NBTHK does NOT issue paper for LIVING smiths.
Would you please post more of your excellent quality photos. I would like to see full length views of both sides, including other side of nakago.
At this point I cannot rule out this blade being an early work of this smith. Hi Treeslicer, here are some more pictures of my katana. my apologies for the late response, renovating the windows of our house took a bit more time than expected ![:P](//storage.forums.net/forum/images/smiley/tongue.png) . let me know what you think of the quality of the katana!
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Post by weaponiZed on Sept 11, 2023 21:20:20 GMT
Looks like a non-nihonto komonjo piece to me.
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Post by larason2 on Sept 11, 2023 21:40:51 GMT
After looking at it more carefully, I agree it's probably what is sometimes called a "Komonjo special." I actually own several of these bare blades, and I thought they were a great deal for what you get, but they aren't a Nihonto, though they are a good quality clone.
The signs it's not Nihonto are the absence of any nioi or nie, the ground nakago end that didn't have its flash filed off properly, the polish missing a lot of time on the uchigomori and jizuya/hazuya steps, and not looking like nugui was used.
Still, I'm happy with them and they are reputed to be very good blades. These are the cream of the crop of Chinese production, and it's really impossible to get a blade this good for the money they go for otherwise.
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