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Post by tensho on Aug 2, 2023 1:42:48 GMT
Tried posting this on Myarmoury but had zero luck uploading pics. I think it may have been a sidesword or ceremonial sword? Weyersberg stamp I believe. 2 other stamps on the side, but can't make them out. I think the blade is blued, that or a very dark patina. Blade isn't sharp. Any thoughts? Blade dimensions. 90cm overall. 77.5cm blade. 20.5mm at Ricasso 4mm at tip(or whats left) ![20230801_204418.jpg](//storage.forums.net/1694914/thumbnailer/0HVelqgYufFSZHdvpPav.png) ![20230801_134252.jpg](//storage.forums.net/1694914/thumbnailer/KSUOywVdYsgAs0ZFniLh.png) ![20230801_134215.jpg](//storage.forums.net/1694914/thumbnailer/YlOMVHlOGznvKYMoerIy.png) ![20230801_134148.jpg](//storage.forums.net/1694914/thumbnailer/FdlwengwPxwydCUshgrP.png)
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Post by AndiTheBarvarian on Aug 2, 2023 5:10:32 GMT
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Post by bas on Aug 2, 2023 7:50:06 GMT
Great looking blade, going by the length it probably came from a flamboyant gentleman’s smallsword, probably 18th Century. While not common these ‘flamberge’ blades show up on a variety of different swords. I was offered a complete smallsword with a similar blade a while back.
I don’t think the tip is broken, the blade was likely more for show than function.
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Post by AndiTheBarvarian on Aug 2, 2023 10:16:13 GMT
Oakeshott described in European Weapons and Armor the transition from rapier to smallsword. Early shorter and lighter transitional rapiers he (after another author) named flamberge, not because they had wavy blades but indeed with the meaning of flamboyant due of the agile way of fencing. He didn't mention the wavy bladed rapiers at all irrc. In Germany those wavy bladed rapiers are also not known. Flamberge is here only the wavy bladed two handed Greatsword.
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Post by bas on Aug 2, 2023 11:05:59 GMT
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Post by treeslicer on Aug 2, 2023 14:14:30 GMT
Tried posting this on Myarmoury but had zero luck uploading pics. I think it may have been a sidesword or ceremonial sword? Weyersberg stamp I believe. 2 other stamps on the side, but can't make them out. I think the blade is blued, that or a very dark patina. Blade isn't sharp. Any thoughts? Blade dimensions. 90cm overall. 77.5cm blade. 20.5mm at Ricasso 4mm at tip(or whats left) There's a "king's head" stamp (that we've seen frequently before) on the blade tang. The sword, whatever it is, was made by Gebruder Weyersberg in Solingen, so it dates to between 1787 and 1882, to begin with. 1787 sounds late to me for a smallsword of a pattern like this. I don't know what it is, but I suspect it's the remains of something Romantically (note the capital "R", I'd be looking in the 1820's-1830's)) and anachronistically made in the form of a flamberge rapier. Does anyone have something like this from Weyersberg in their books?
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Post by tensho on Aug 3, 2023 20:52:36 GMT
Thanks for the replies. I tried to do some research on it before I posted and even tried to find a similar one which led me to Sideswords. The hunting sword idea I didn't think of, and I guess that is a possibility. The Weyersberg mark on the tang I find interesting. If a handle etc.is attached their would be no way of identifying thw blade unless removed. Weyersberg history seems to be conflicting as well, as per here the "kingshead" trademark was from 1768 but on their official site it says they started using it in 1560? And this is all I found for stampings. ![9b0396de53737428fb346d0d759ebc22.jpg](//storage.forums.net/1694914/thumbnailer/FGWrVHueyjRi0vjdPayL.png)
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