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Post by doc21 on Jul 23, 2023 13:17:13 GMT
Hi guys
I've just purchased an M1848 Prussian Artillery sword and I'm wondering about a sword knot or portapee for it.
It is stamped for the 5th Artillery Regiment, 4th battery. Google hasn't helped me so, does anyone have any ideas or links to what would be the correct portapee and where I could find one please?
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Post by madirish on Jul 23, 2023 18:30:09 GMT
The portepee knots for a sword comes in 2 versions...officer or corporal/sergeant knots. The officers portepee is rounded and tight and the NCO's is loose. Materials are different, too. I just bought a repro Prussian NCO sword knot here: Prussian NCO Porteppe Knot Can't say how realistic it is as I have never seen an NCO's one in the flesh, but have seen officer's ones. Just missed out on an ebay auction for an antique Prussian Officer's Portepee knot a week or two ago. My understanding was that colors don't change on sword knots based on unit....they are all the same for units from the various states. It is only the bayonet knots that vary in color from battalion to battalion and unit to unit. However, I have seen something else suggesting that the crown colors an change on sword knots...but I really don't think that's true for the Imperial era. I am certainly open to correction if someone more knowledgeable chimes in.
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Post by doc21 on Jul 23, 2023 19:15:22 GMT
Thank you for the informative reply. Its not an officers sword, so would be the NCO version.
The 5th Artillery Regiment is listed as the 5th (1st Lower Silesia) Field Artillery 'von Podbielski' and typically I couldn't see Lower Silesia on the pages you posted.
Which book is that please?
Many thanks again Dave
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Post by madirish on Jul 23, 2023 22:46:12 GMT
Lower Silesia was not an separate state like the others on that list...it had been part of Prussia for 150yrs by WWI. The book is "Swords of Germany: 1900/1945". I was a bit disappointed as it focuses much much more on Nazi era swords and the Imperial section is more of a supplement.
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Post by Uhlan on Jul 24, 2023 7:06:46 GMT
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Post by doc21 on Jul 25, 2023 13:39:06 GMT
Thank you Uhlan, I will definitely need that site on my PC for ease of Google Translate lol.
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