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Post by marw on Jul 16, 2023 13:27:13 GMT
Hi everyone. I am looking for U.S. Marine Corps Officer Saber by Coldsteel. I know it has been discontinued, but is there any vendor they might be available with? even a second hand one? Secondly does WKC offer versions with high carbon steel which can be used for cutting etc and does anyone has experience in this egads with WKC?
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Post by AndiTheBarvarian on Jul 16, 2023 13:52:57 GMT
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Post by marw on Jul 16, 2023 15:11:30 GMT
Thanks! I did look into this one. But the others seem to be only in stainless steel. The instruction manual on the site explicitly states that although the swords are hardened and tempered they lack they toughness to survive strikes. I wonder why harden and temper them if they cannot be used practically?
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Post by AndiTheBarvarian on Jul 16, 2023 15:14:28 GMT
Marto does it too with their deco swords. I assume the whole heat treatment process makes the blade much more durable even with stainless steel.
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Post by pgandy on Jul 16, 2023 15:39:00 GMT
WKC states spring steel “Blade: Forged Spring-steel hardened and tempered to 48-53°HRC Rockwell, ca. 810 mm long, strongly curved.”
Possibly they state the swords won’t survive strikes is a legal loophole to keep WKC out of trouble. “Survive strikes” covers a very wide area. To go to an extreme, 1045 steel with a 48 HRC may not do what some expect out of a blade. The blade may hold up but not hold an edge as long as some expect without attention.
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Post by AndiTheBarvarian on Jul 16, 2023 16:04:09 GMT
The San Martin Mameluke clone is carbon steel, the official WKC USMC Officer's is stainless steel, but also heat treated. The annealing and tempering process makes a better tougher blade also with stainless steel, but not as tough as carbon steel. All stainless steel knives are heat treated too.
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Post by pgandy on Jul 16, 2023 16:22:52 GMT
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Post by marw on Jul 16, 2023 21:12:59 GMT
Yes actually the san martin one is exception in that sense. Apart from it mostly are stainless or "damascus" steel.
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