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Post by RufusScorpius on Jun 28, 2023 19:47:14 GMT
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Post by pgandy on Jun 28, 2023 21:52:57 GMT
??? Well now, you might post that in one of the numerous threads about home defense. The theorists seem to have run those into the ground. That’s not the first story I’ve heard of a katana being used for home defense. Interesting story and thanks for posting.
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Post by glendon on Jun 28, 2023 23:07:27 GMT
Never trust a farmer? Survival depends upon objects found close at hand? Always call for backup?
Mmm... Despite the best intentions of the various-partied social engineers, the world continues to be populated by rabid sinners?
Or D, all the above?
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Post by eastman on Jun 29, 2023 1:10:30 GMT
he needs to practice his sword work if a stab with a samurai sword was "non-life threatening"
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Post by larason2 on Jun 29, 2023 3:36:50 GMT
It sounds like it was pretty messy. The homeowner was 71! The burgler 61. The homeowner was probably not trained to use the katana, or he intentionally didn't want to kill him. The fact that the gun jammed suggests it wasn't often cleaned or checked. The homeowner had to face off against the burgler with a pitchfork unarmed! He's a pretty tough customer!
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Post by RufusScorpius on Jun 29, 2023 10:14:33 GMT
It sounds like it was pretty messy. The homeowner was 71! The burgler 61. The homeowner was probably not trained to use the katana, or he intentionally didn't want to kill him. The fact that the gun jammed suggests it wasn't often cleaned or checked. The homeowner had to face off against the burgler with a pitchfork unarmed! He's a pretty tough customer! I know! I probably wouldn't want to face either one of those dudes...
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Post by treeslicer on Jun 29, 2023 18:55:37 GMT
I'm wondering if it was really a pitchfork, or just a spading fork. Real, round-tine hay pitchforks make a darned nasty weapon.
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Post by pgandy on Jun 29, 2023 21:20:18 GMT
I'm wondering if it was really a pitchfork, or just a spading fork. Real, round-tine hay pitchforks make a darned nasty weapon. I had to look that one up as I never heard of a spading fork. Pitch fork bring back unfavourable memories, which in the long run I’m glad to have experienced, just don’t want any more. At the end of the growing season my uncle would hitch the mule to the wagon and one of us kids would drive while he cut the hay with a scythe. The rest of us kids manned pitch forks and loaded the hay. That was one nasty job as it didn’t take long to work up a sweat that the falling debris from the hay loved to latch on to. That was one miserable job. I can see the difference using Wikipedia between the two and knowing the newspaper's reporting can see the confusion and wouldn't be surprised. No question about it, what we used were pitch forks with them having long thin prongs. In a fight though I don't see much of a difference in what one would call the thing.
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Post by treeslicer on Jun 30, 2023 2:47:29 GMT
I'm wondering if it was really a pitchfork, or just a spading fork. Real, round-tine hay pitchforks make a darned nasty weapon. I had to look that one up as I never heard of a spading fork. Pitch fork bring back unfavourable memories, which in the long run I’m glad to have experienced, just don’t want any more. At the end of the growing season my uncle would hitch the mule to the wagon and one of us kids would drive while he cut the hay with a scythe. The rest of us kids manned pitch forks and loaded the hay. That was one nasty job as it didn’t take long to work up a sweat that the falling debris from the hay loved to latch on to. That was one miserable job. I can see the difference using Wikipedia between the two and knowing the newspaper's reporting can see the confusion and wouldn't be surprised. No question about it, what we used were pitch forks with them having long thin prongs. In a fight though I don't see much of a difference in what one would call the thing. There's a big penetration difference, the pitchfork being the longer, sharper, toothier, and deadlier. City folk usually have the spading fork for gardening, but call it a "pitchfork", and don't know the difference, because unlike us farm kids, they've never seen a pitchfork. I'd bet the guy's katana was mall ninja stuff, too.
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Post by AndiTheBarvarian on Jun 30, 2023 3:06:53 GMT
Are you joking?
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Post by larason2 on Jun 30, 2023 3:13:31 GMT
I grew up shoveling hay for horses with a real 3 tined pitchfork. They could certainly do some damage, but I'd hate to be struck with any long iron implement! In the hands of someone trained to deal damage with pole weapons though, it would be much worse!
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Post by pgandy on Jun 30, 2023 6:14:59 GMT
There's a big penetration difference, the pitchfork being the longer, sharper, toothier, and deadlier. City folk usually have the spading fork for gardening, but call it a "pitchfork", and don't know the difference, because unlike us farm kids, they've never seen a pitchfork. I'd bet the guy's katana was mall ninja stuff, too.
I won’t argue there, except pitch forks don’t necessarily have more prongs. Ours had three or four, probably four. Who counted in those days, then ad 60 years to that.
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