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Post by pgandy on Jun 15, 2023 0:54:18 GMT
I’m beginning to get the urge for an Opinel pocket knife, mostly out of nostalgia. I saw me first and only one in about 1948 and was not impressed. Now some years later I view things differently. And for kicks I was reading Amazon’s reviews, the negative ones as they are sometime hilarious, proving my theory there a more horse’s $emprinies in this world than horses. This applies to other reviews also. I have to question the learning process, or is it the teaching, no matter.
Here are only a few of the reasons people objected to their Opinel to the point of rating it 1 star, suggesting not to buy.
• “This knife has rusted and corroded and I am so disappointed. I wipe it clean after every use and ensure it is completely dry before folding up. And still...completely rusted. And now it's impossible to put it in or pull it out of the handle. Only way I can get it out is to use a pair of pliers. This is way too much money to spend for an inferior product.” Are you saying that a carbon steel blade rusted after wiping completely dry? No oil? Shame on Opinel
• “I wanted to use it as a kitchen knife however if you put it in the dishwasher, it comes out with rust poor quality blade.” Here’s someone saying that this carbon steel pocket knife is not dishwasher compatible with that de-greasing detergent and hot water. They do offer a ss version. But I'd think twice before putting it or any non-kitchen or table knife into a dishwasher.
• “I cut a small bamboo and the edge easily eroded and folded! Was this knife for cutting wood and bamboo?” Probably not. I can think of others I’d rather use to cut up bamboo.
And so it went, there were others.
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Post by eastman on Jun 15, 2023 1:28:26 GMT
I like my Opinel knives. I have mostly stainless blades, but a a few are the carbon steel versions. I have heard of people using a beeswax based lip balm as a rust preventative on carbon steel eating / cooking knives (bought some Burt's Bees but haven't tried it yet)
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Post by AndiTheBarvarian on Jun 15, 2023 1:31:00 GMT
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Post by pgandy on Jun 15, 2023 1:49:41 GMT
1950: “We will have flying cars.” And we did. I remember, but they were not successful.
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Post by takitam on Jun 15, 2023 6:39:15 GMT
The first and last review may prove to be not as dumb as you imagine once you start using the knife. Not everyone is a knife expert. Some Opinels are overground and are too thin behind the edge, even for what they are. Not a surprise that a non-knife person was disappointed. The first review also describes a common issue. In some conditions once the blade 'rusts', or rather starts to develop patina, and combined with enough humidity, knife can become almost impossible to open (and the virobloc becomes a serious pain as well). You then have to tap it against a hard surface. Opinels are great knives cutting wise, but they have some serious flaws as well. If you know what you are getting you can live with it, or maybe even enjoy it
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Post by mrstabby on Jun 15, 2023 8:50:34 GMT
I can see how you can't know that bamboo isn't something you cut with a fine edge. What I don't get is that you need to tell people not to eat corrosive washing macine detergent, or people trying to plug in an USB cable into the PC's LAN port, it doesn't even remotely look the same. Just think how stupid the average human is and then realize that 50% are even stupider.....
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Post by takitam on Jun 15, 2023 10:49:51 GMT
Deleted the post. I feel like it brought nothing to the discussion and was off-topic for no good reason.
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Post by mrstabby on Jun 15, 2023 11:21:11 GMT
I feel like around 50% of humanity just exists to annoy the other 50%. The dumbest possible user is unfortunately a thing, and it has become worse with social media. People seem to infect each other with the stupid. It's the less you know about a subject, the more you think you know, and in my experience, the pople who sell themselves as the best at something are actually the worst.
Also technically it is correct, average means 50% are less and 50% more stupid. Its the best kind of correct you know.
EDIT: about the "not understanding yourself well enough" It needs an active effort to self reflect about your own abilities, and some people are not willing or even able to do so. Human nature is to hate admitting failure. I can't imagine this overestimation helping in ones survival though and not everybody does this. When asking for driving ability and testing it it came to about 80% who overestimated their ability, the other 20% underestimated themselves. I can see overestimating danger helping in survival, but overestimating oneself is contraproductive. Still you are right, everybody has this flaw, but some can cope.
As usefulness goes: I am as useless as they come. But at least I don't eat tide pods....
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Post by pgandy on Jun 15, 2023 12:38:28 GMT
However one slices it, the issues and others not listed by the dissatisfied owners boils down to largely ignorance. Ignorance, stupidity, or dumb are not the same. The former from the lack of knowledge. I did see one before I stopped reading that could be legit. Granted, the thread is mis-named.
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Post by mrstabby on Jun 15, 2023 13:17:38 GMT
I have seen tons of reviews for D2 knives because people don't know it's not a stainless steel. I have also seen people giving bad reviews after putting their 200$ CARBON STEEL chefs knife in the dishwasher. Yes, its mostly ignorance, but also lack of thinking sometimes. Like the guy saying that his solar cell doesn't work. He had it indoors....
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Post by pellius on Jun 15, 2023 14:04:44 GMT
1950: “We will have flying cars.” 1979:
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Post by mrstabby on Jun 15, 2023 14:30:59 GMT
Not all predictions from back then were bad. “In the future, computers may weigh no more than 1.5 tonnes.” Popular mechanics, 1949 On the other hand... “Nuclear-powered vacuum cleaners will probably be a reality within ten years.” Alex Lewyt, president of Lewyt vacuum company, 1955
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Post by kung on Jun 15, 2023 19:26:02 GMT
I once bought a shirt that had a warning sticker "Do not iron this shirt while wearing it".
I'm assuming that the lawyers made the manufacturer add the warning because somebody had done this, and sued the company. If you can't fix stupid, the best you can do is protect against it.
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Post by eastman on Jun 16, 2023 1:58:59 GMT
nothing is ever foolproof because the fools are so damn clever
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Post by Turok on Jun 16, 2023 10:02:22 GMT
Opinel knives are nice and they have a lot of history. A lot of fine pocket knives come from France like the Laguiole, Nontron, and Douk Douk.
I myself always like the German made Mercator K55K. It's nice and light, easy to use and maintain.
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Post by pgandy on Jun 16, 2023 15:13:19 GMT
I stumbled on this yesterday by accident and was hesitant to post as it has nothing to do with blades, but as it is fitting the thread’s title and there appears interest in the thread I reconsidered. So, for what’s it’s worth.
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Post by exeter on Jun 16, 2023 22:00:45 GMT
I once bought a shirt that had a warning sticker "Do not iron this shirt while wearing it". I'm assuming that the lawyers made the manufacturer add the warning because somebody had done this, and sued the company. If you can't fix stupid, the best you can do is protect against it. A long time ago I worked with a chemist who came to work one morning complaining about a burn on her shoulder. She'd tried to touch up a wrinkle on her blouse with an iron. While she was wearing the blouse. Later one her friends told me she'd done it before. So...
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Post by yelman on Jul 7, 2023 1:01:27 GMT
I feel like around 50% of humanity just exists to annoy the other 50%. The dumbest possible user is unfortunately a thing, and it has become worse with social media. People seem to infect each other with the stupid. It's the less you know about a subject, the more you think you know, and in my experience, the pople who sell themselves as the best at something are actually the worst.
Also technically it is correct, average means 50% are less and 50% more stupid. Its the best kind of correct you know.
EDIT: about the "not understanding yourself well enough" It needs an active effort to self reflect about your own abilities, and some people are not willing or even able to do so. Human nature is to hate admitting failure. I can't imagine this overestimation helping in ones survival though and not everybody does this. When asking for driving ability and testing it it came to about 80% who overestimated their ability, the other 20% underestimated themselves. I can see overestimating danger helping in survival, but overestimating oneself is contraproductive. Still you are right, everybody has this flaw, but some can cope.
As usefulness goes: I am as useless as they come. But at least I don't eat tide pods....
The problem IMO is few people are willing to make the effort to become knowledgeable. It takes work to become educated.
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