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Post by RE:Wrap Studio on Apr 29, 2023 5:23:11 GMT
Greetings! I am looking around to see if any of my fellow Jigen Ryu folks are on this forum. There are very few of us in the United States since there is only 3 schools. Would love to get to know other TJR students or really any iaido/ koryu students. I have been a Tenshinsho Jigen Ryu student since 2018 here in Maryland and have been having a blast. Looking forward to hearing from you 😀
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Post by Gelue on May 3, 2023 5:22:34 GMT
While not a student of Jigen Ryu I train In traditional Japanese Swords arts. It Seems to be more backyard cutters around than anything else these days on the forum but welcome.
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Post by tera on May 3, 2023 22:27:02 GMT
A little Toyama Ryu and even less Muso Shinden Ryu for me. I've been interested in older koryu, but availability in my sphere of travel is limited.
Most of my time was spent in Aikido and Judo, to be honest.
Still haven't done any backyard cutting. Who knows, maybe this year is the year!
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Post by RE:Wrap Studio on May 4, 2023 5:26:21 GMT
While not a student of Jigen Ryu I train In traditional Japanese Swords arts. It Seems to be more backyard cutters around than anything else these days on the forum but welcome. Backyard cutters are awesome! I figured it would be worth a try. Koryu population is sadly small. Good to meet fellow iai folks |
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Post by RE:Wrap Studio on May 4, 2023 5:29:21 GMT
A little Toyama Ryu and even less Muso Shinden Ryu for me. I've been interested in older koryu, but availability in my sphere of travel is limited. Most of my time was spent in Aikido and Judo, to be honest. Still haven't done any backyard cutting. Who knows, maybe this year is the year! Good choices! I'm admittedly terrible at hand to hand combat but for some reason weapon arts were easier for me to pickup. If you want to get into cutting I'd be happy to offer some basic pointers. |
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Post by RufusScorpius on May 4, 2023 12:27:48 GMT
I studied TJR as my first form years ago. I wasn't part of a school, but was lucky enough to have a teacher living in my area who gave lessons. I studied under him for about 3 years before everybody went their separate ways. Since that time, I've branched off into what I call "Jeet Ken Jutsu" which is "form with no form".
Long story, but I found that adhering to a single style was limiting and not very effective in actual combat and not effective when confronted by a different style that didn't follow the expected action/reactions. I rejected the "tea ceremony" traditions entirely and then started to focus on learning the biomechanics of sword fighting from every style from every culture and adapted it to my existing TJR knowledge. Doing this has run me afoul of style purists who are horrified that I don't move my feet exactly as prescribed by the ancient texts or bow three times before drawing the sword in front of an opponent, but somehow I still manage to hold my own in sparring. I'm more interested in the combat effectiveness of a particular sword design than I am about adhering to the ceremonies of the culture it came from.
I know there are several others on this forum that also practice a free form style. That isn't to say that the tea ceremonies are bad, not by any means. If it is of interest to you, then study them of course! There's plenty of room in this hobby for every level of interest from historic accuracy and traditional studies all the way to mall ninja zombie slayers.
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Post by RE:Wrap Studio on May 4, 2023 15:43:21 GMT
I studied TJR as my first form years ago. I wasn't part of a school, but was lucky enough to have a teacher living in my area who gave lessons. I studied under him for about 3 years before everybody went their separate ways.  Since that time, I've branched off into what I call "Jeet Ken Jutsu" which is "form with no form". Long story, but I found that adhering to a single style was limiting and not very effective in actual combat and not effective when confronted by a different style that didn't follow the expected action/reactions. I rejected the "tea ceremony" traditions entirely and then started to focus on learning the biomechanics of sword fighting from every style from every culture and adapted it to my existing TJR knowledge. Doing this has run me afoul of style purists who are horrified that I don't move my feet exactly as prescribed by the ancient texts or bow three times before drawing the sword in front of an opponent, but somehow I still manage to hold my own in sparring. I'm more interested in the combat effectiveness of a particular sword design than I am about adhering to the ceremonies of the culture it came from. I know there are several others on this forum that also practice a free form style. That isn't to say that the tea ceremonies are bad, not by any means. If it is of interest to you, then study them of course! There's plenty of room in this hobby for every level of interest from historic accuracy and traditional studies all the way to mall ninja zombie slayers. While I may be a student of the "tea ceremony" styles as you put it. (Hilarious description btw lol) I am not some koryu snob either. I may not branch into other stuff but I love to learn about other styles and watch demonstration. Free form styles I don't have much experience watching but I wager they are tons of fun! Training is training, we aren't in an Era where these combat techniques serve a purpose, it's all for fun and sadly, some people forget that. |
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Post by Yagoro on May 6, 2023 6:12:00 GMT
Greetings! I am looking around to see if any of my fellow Jigen Ryu folks are on this forum. There are very few of us in the United States since there is only 3 schools. Would love to get to know other TJR students or really any iaido/ koryu students. I have been a Tenshinsho Jigen Ryu student since 2018 here in Maryland and have been having a blast. Looking forward to hearing from you 😀 I am also a koryu practitioner, not many of us on this site. |
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Post by RufusScorpius on May 6, 2023 15:45:43 GMT
While I may be a student of the "tea ceremony" styles as you put it. (Hilarious description btw lol) I am not some koryu snob either. I may not branch into other stuff but I love to learn about other styles and watch demonstration. Free form styles I don't have much experience watching but I wager they are tons of fun! Training is training, we aren't in an Era where these combat techniques serve a purpose, it's all for fun and sadly, some people forget that. I have some videos up on this site showing me sparring against multiple styles. It's a lot of fun and I learn quite a lot each time I experience a new technique or weapon. I've come to respect all of them as being quite effective. |
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Post by RE:Wrap Studio on May 8, 2023 3:51:28 GMT
While I may be a student of the "tea ceremony" styles as you put it. (Hilarious description btw lol) I am not some koryu snob either. I may not branch into other stuff but I love to learn about other styles and watch demonstration. Free form styles I don't have much experience watching but I wager they are tons of fun! Training is training, we aren't in an Era where these combat techniques serve a purpose, it's all for fun and sadly, some people forget that. I have some videos up on this site showing me sparring against multiple styles. It's a lot of fun and I learn quite a lot each time I experience a new technique or weapon.  I've come to respect all of them as being quite effective. Link me the thread? I'd like to see em! Sounds interesting |
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Post by RE:Wrap Studio on May 8, 2023 17:45:41 GMT
Greetings! I am looking around to see if any of my fellow Jigen Ryu folks are on this forum. There are very few of us in the United States since there is only 3 schools. Would love to get to know other TJR students or really any iaido/ koryu students. I have been a Tenshinsho Jigen Ryu student since 2018 here in Maryland and have been having a blast. Looking forward to hearing from you 😀 I am also a koryu practitioner, not many of us on this site. Exciting! Share some stories? |
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Post by RufusScorpius on May 8, 2023 19:40:14 GMT
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Post by RE:Wrap Studio on May 8, 2023 20:05:44 GMT
whoa! ok that was really cool! I dont really know anyone that studies any European MA that is local (to me) so I couldnt do something like that but it was really interesting to watch! thanks for sharing. |
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Post by RufusScorpius on May 8, 2023 21:02:04 GMT
All these videos were taken in Europe. If I didn't travel a lot for work, then I would never have gotten those experiences.
I'm also "that guy" that puts his actions to his words. I'm not afraid to post a video of me waddling around like wounded duck pretending to play swordsman.
I don't like to criticize others if I don't put myself out there first.
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Post by RE:Wrap Studio on May 8, 2023 21:13:13 GMT
We all gotta start somewhere man! I for one, would have loved to have been video taped when I started training to compare to now. It is always refreshing to see how you have improved/evolved over the years. I will never claim to be better than anyone else, I am just fortunate enough to have found a good school with a good instructor. I commend anyone who is able to learn on their own  |
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Post by RufusScorpius on May 11, 2023 14:29:33 GMT
As luck would have it, I will be in Germany for most of the month of June. I can certainly take some more videos and hopefully check my progress (or regression) from last year.
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Post by RE:Wrap Studio on May 12, 2023 14:30:44 GMT
As luck would have it, I will be in Germany for most of the month of June. I can certainly take some more videos and hopefully check my progress (or regression) from last year. Please do! I'd be excited to see them |
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Post by Drunk Merchant on May 12, 2023 21:28:04 GMT
Know nothing about it but I had a couple of swords from Jigen Ryu practitioners. The tsuka was remarkably thick and long by Japanese standards.
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Post by RE:Wrap Studio on May 13, 2023 15:50:28 GMT
Know nothing about it but I had a couple of swords from Jigen Ryu practitioners. The tsuka was remarkably thick and long by Japanese standards. Interesting that you brought that up! The Jigen Ryu that most people know of (the reason your sword was made the way it is) specialized in 2 handed, extremely powerful cuts and of course the infamous "jigen scream" so the longer tsuka was good for that. Tenshinsho was the original that the more widely known Jigen Ryu was made from. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tenshinsho_Jigen_Ryu |
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