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Post by snubnoze on Jun 22, 2022 3:29:04 GMT
Looks great Eric! Like a fancier version of the one I got from him.
I predict I'll be waiting longer in que for a gold gilded kriegsmesser. Been 5 months so far.
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Post by pellius on Jun 22, 2022 6:20:56 GMT
Very nice
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Post by AndiTheBarvarian on Jun 22, 2022 17:17:21 GMT
Hanwei Charlemagne Saber just arrived. Really well handling, nice blingbling.  Not perfect, but everything is tight.  The original:  There's a little Avar in each Bavarian! |
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Post by stormmaster on Jun 22, 2022 18:29:01 GMT
a good one to have, congrats
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Post by AndiTheBarvarian on Jun 22, 2022 18:57:02 GMT
Count Dooku goes pimp!  Beside the nice pattern in the fuller the blade is extremely well designed. Good distal taper, deep fullers, change from backsword to diamond cross section in the yelman. Together with the amount of brass in the hilt they created a very good mass distribution. The blade has presence still but it handles like a lightsaber. I wish Hanwei would offer Napoleonic and US Cavalry sabers! |
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Post by pellius on Jun 22, 2022 19:30:41 GMT
Cool saber.
Congrats
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Post by durinnmcfurren on Jun 22, 2022 21:23:15 GMT
Hanwei Charlemagne Saber just arrived. Really well handling, nice blingbling. Not perfect, but everything is tight. The original: There's a little Avar in each Bavarian! Very cool looking! I was surprised to see that the original also has the two halves of the decoration on the guard overlap. At first I thought 'Wow, that's a weird way to do that...' but then I saw the original was the same!
Why is it called Charlemagne, though? This does not appear to be a Charlemagne period sword?
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Post by skelley on Jun 22, 2022 22:43:13 GMT
Count Dooku goes pimp! Beside the nice pattern in the fuller the blade is extremely well designed. Good distal taper, deep fullers, change from backsword to diamond cross section in the yelman. Together with the amount of brass in the hilt they created a very good mass distribution. The blade has presence still but it handles like a lightsaber. I wish Hanwei would offer Napoleonic and US Cavalry sabers! That's a wicked looking sword my dude! Between Charlemagne and the Dooku reference you reminded me that Christopher Lee was part of a symphonic rock album. It's cheesy as all hell but I can't lie, I love it! Anyways, My LK Chen White Serpent came in today. Due to all the brass fittings the whole package as some significant weight at just 4 lbs. While the sword is a little heavier than my Magnificent Chu, the closer p.o.b on the White Serpent makes it feel just a little lighter and more nimble in the hand by comparison. And the rivet in the handle is flat enough that it doesn't cause any noticeable discomfort in the hand for me right now.   The brass castings all seem to be in great condition      I went over every inch of the scabbard and there is absolutely no sag in the damask fabric.   The only critique I can find right now is that the collar on one side of the blade is perfectly flushed while the other is just slightly not. If I didn't have a side by side comparison I probably wouldn't have noticed.   I really, really like this sword so far. May be my favorite LK Chen sword period. It's definitely my fanciest sword! |
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Post by stormmaster on Jun 22, 2022 22:49:39 GMT
from koa? i considered getting one as well, still thinking either this one or the yanling dao or chu jian
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Post by skelley on Jun 22, 2022 23:13:08 GMT
from koa? i considered getting one as well, still thinking either this one or the yanling dao or chu jian Yep, I usually wait for KOA to get them. It just seems simpler to me. You really can't go wrong with any of the ones you mentioned in my opinion. |
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Post by AndiTheBarvarian on Jun 23, 2022 2:36:25 GMT
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Post by akira on Jun 25, 2022 15:29:40 GMT
Nice to see you got yours too! It appears Hanwei is rereleasing their older models like the hanwei qi jian in a much darker rayskin color. This saber goes by many names like the 'Atilla' or 'Charlemagne' saber but the dating seems way off to belong to either of them. The story goes that Otto III recovered the weapon when he opened Charlemagne’s grave in AD 1000. On the other hand, there's a Hungarian legend that mentions it was the youngest son of King Attila, Csaba who inherited the sword. Source: www.hungarianottomanwars.com/swords-and-sabers/the-sword-of-charlemagne-or-the-saber-of-attila/ |
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Post by durinnmcfurren on Jun 25, 2022 16:12:28 GMT
Yes, I read up about that. I'm actually surprised that a saber of this design existed even around 1000 AD. I would have thought this kind of design was much later, like renaissance or later!
Anyway, it's a very cool looking design!
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Post by akira on Jun 25, 2022 20:37:35 GMT
Yes, I read up about that. I'm actually surprised that a saber of this design existed even around 1000 AD. I would have thought this kind of design was much later, like renaissance or later!
Anyway, it's a very cool looking design!
Interestingly, sabers existed way before 1000ad if you look at the infographic below which features completely straight ring pommeled 'proto-sabers' as I like to call them and would eventually become more curved over time.
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Post by AndiTheBarvarian on Jun 26, 2022 9:07:20 GMT
This are Avar sabers from ca. 700 AD found in graves in Bavaria.  |
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Post by akira on Jun 26, 2022 15:05:48 GMT
This are Avar sabers from ca. 700 AD found in graves in Bavaria.
Lovely example Andi!
A few weeks ago, I bought a similiar chinese proto-saber from Huanuo that's now discontinued.
From what I found, this is an early saber kept by the imperial family in Japan known as the Kingin Denso No Karatachi / 金銀鈿荘唐大刀 that belonged to Emperor Shomu of the Nara period (ad 710–784) and was most likely imported from the Tang Dynasty.
Here's some examples of the real thing:
The reproduction that Huanuo put out looks incredibly faithful to the real 'Kingin Denso No Karatachi' with the very ornate openwork fittings that comes with gems along with a lacquered saya. The dao is completely straight and double edged near the top which features a gorgeous patterned blade. The handling feels biased towards the blade heavy side although I have yet to cut with it since it's more of a ceremonial sword. I would say the only nitpick I have about it is how loose the fittings are which gets in the way of handling as well as the sandpaper-like rayskin grip. However I got it at a steal (around $700) and is currently discontinued so I can't complain. Overall, I'm pretty happy with the historical accuracy coming from Huanuo and would highly recommend anyone to pick one up if they manage to find one!
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Post by ggower on Jun 29, 2022 2:12:08 GMT
New Albion Day is always a great day. Scabbard from Tod's Workshop. |
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Post by stormmaster on Jun 29, 2022 2:25:16 GMT
very nice, the color coordination is great!
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Post by skelley on Jun 29, 2022 2:49:54 GMT
New Albion Day is always a great day. Scabbard from Tod's Workshop. How the hell did you get my sword?! But seriously, that's awesome looking and I'm really jealous right now. My Chevalier will be similar, if maybe lighter in shade. I feel like the green really accentuates the flower-like pommel. Now I want mine. Waiting for the last month or two to pass by is the worst for me.  |
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Post by ggower on Jun 29, 2022 3:59:08 GMT
very nice, the color coordination is great! Thanks! Sometimes you get lucky! |
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