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Post by SinoSparo on Feb 21, 2023 16:22:17 GMT
I'm trying to find the most historically accurate Deepeeka Gladii and this is what I found
Historically Accurate Gladius
Hispaniensis
https://www.soulofthewarrior.com/product-page/ah4215-delos-republican-era-gladius (Slovenia & Spanish blade, French guard plate, Delos scabbard)
https://www.kultofathena.com/product/caesar-sword-with-wood-hilt/?item=AH4229 (Grip too large)
https://www.kultofathena.com/product/caesar-gladius-with-bone-grip/ (AH4228 Unknown pommel)
Mainz
https://www.kultofathena.com/product/fulham-gladius-sword-ah2007/
Fulham
https://www.kultofathena.com/product/mainz-wederath-gladius/?item=AH3311E (Guard on wide side)
Pompei
https://www.kultofathena.com/product/pompeii-gladius-2/ (AH4211B Most accurate)
https://www.kultofathena.com/product/1st-century-roman-pompeii-sword/?item=AH4211CK (Best)
https://www.kultofathena.com/product/titus-vespasianus-gladius/
Unknown
https://www.kultofathena.com/product/tiberius-gladius/ (AH2008 Wide blade & hilt)
https://www.kultofathena.com/product/3rd-century-roman-zanten-gladius/ (AH4211)
https://www.kultofathena.com/product/3rd-century-roman-zanten-gladius/ (AH4211A)
https://www.kultofathena.com/product/fulham-rondel-gladius/ (AH4209B)
Not Accurate
AH2010 Fulham (Pompeii blade & scabbard, guard plate laid on, spatha hilt)
AH4211C Pompeii (Fulham gladius with oversized Mainz pommel, Pompeii blade and guard)
Sources
https://sbg-sword-forum.forums.net/thread/61499/which-deepeeka-gladius-buy
http://www.romancoins.info/MilitaryEquipment-Attack.html
Is this list correct? Any changes/recommendations/updates?
Thanks!
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Post by AndiTheBarvarian on Feb 21, 2023 17:30:20 GMT
The Tiberius?
To me the most tempting one.
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Post by SinoSparo on Feb 21, 2023 17:35:20 GMT
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Post by AndiTheBarvarian on Feb 21, 2023 18:48:48 GMT
Aaand..., welcome to the forum!
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Post by pgandy on Feb 21, 2023 19:31:59 GMT
Welcome to the forum SinoSparo. I saw your interest in a gladii when OKing your application. I hope that our members will be helpful. It looks like Andi has you off to a good start.
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Post by SinoSparo on Feb 22, 2023 2:41:01 GMT
Welcome to the forum SinoSparo. I saw your interest in a gladii when OKing your application. I hope that our members will be helpful. It looks like Andi has you off to a good start. Thanks. I'm normally a Chinese sword guy and a huge LK Chen fan/collector, with both his Han Daos and both his Tang Daos (all straight sabers). But I decided to get a Deepeeka Delos Gladius, Xiphos, and Kingston Arms side sword for my first foray into European blades. I also plan to grab a H&H sword and a saber to round out my collection, but only after I get LK Chen's super lightweight Qi Jia Yao Dao. |
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Post by Turok on Feb 22, 2023 3:21:43 GMT
The Fulham AH2007 and the Sword of Tiberius AH2008 are my favorite! I've been trying to decide between the two for some time myself!
The proportions of AH2008 are a little oversized and wide for a gladius. I'm not sure if this is historically accurate or not to the original in the British Museum.
The Romulus and Remus motif on AH2007 looks great and the scalloped pommel and guard matches well with the period.
The Deepeeka Xiphos looks good too! I really like the Korfu Greek Kopis as well but I would probably replace the leather sheath with something more accurate!
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Post by larason2 on Feb 22, 2023 3:26:47 GMT
I agree, go for the Tiberius, AH2008. It's the most attractive to me too. The Romans had hundreds of years of experience with the gladius, and there's a fair bit of variation in the examples unearthed. So go for the one that looks the best to you. They would all be reasonably historically accurate.
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Post by eastman on Feb 22, 2023 4:02:30 GMT
Welcome to the forum SinoSparo. I saw your interest in a gladii when OKing your application. I hope that our members will be helpful. It looks like Andi has you off to a good start. Thanks. I'm normally a Chinese sword guy and a huge LK Chen fan/collector, with both his Han Daos and both his Tang Daos (all straight sabers). But I decided to get a Deepeeka Delos Gladius, Xiphos, and Kingston Arms side sword for my first foray into European blades. I also plan to grab a H&H sword and a saber to round out my collection, but only after I get LK Chen's super lightweight Qi Jia Yao Dao.
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Post by SinoSparo on Feb 22, 2023 14:40:54 GMT
Thanks. I'm normally a Chinese sword guy and a huge LK Chen fan/collector, with both his Han Daos and both his Tang Daos (all straight sabers). But I decided to get a Deepeeka Delos Gladius, Xiphos, and Kingston Arms side sword for my first foray into European blades. I also plan to grab a H&H sword and a saber to round out my collection, but only after I get LK Chen's super lightweight Qi Jia Yao Dao.
Thanks for the suggestion. I've used Katanas, one handed Han Daos, and 1.5'er Tang Daos; and I found the latter to be my "comfort zone". For 1.5'ers that I'm lookin at, neither Hanwei Albrecht II or the Castle Erbach sword are 1:1 replicas, and I'm not sure Ronin Katana's Model #13 works as a 1.5'er. I guess we'll see |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2023 15:52:23 GMT
I briefly owned the Fulham gladius and believe it's one of the best swords. I definitely recommend it.
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Post by SinoSparo on Feb 23, 2023 18:49:57 GMT
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Post by AndiTheBarvarian on Feb 23, 2023 19:03:16 GMT
I had the same thought and I remember a YouTube video about the Hisp with such a blade.
So I tried to find out more about the Hispanensis type and it looks like they were longer, more slender than the classic Mainz and less waisted.
The Tiberius is less waisted but maybe to broad for a Hisp.
But the blade is similar to the ones in Romancoins, rather the Speyer Museum one than the Tiberius.
For me it's - combined with the no-bs hilt - the most accurate "early" Mainz.
The grip could be thicker but that leaves more space for grip band.
Btw. my Celtic ancestors (Vindelici) here in Bavaria were waiting eagerly to be conquered by THE Tiberius to get the red wine and floor heating from the Roman Empire, so VIVAT TIBERIUS...!
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Post by Jash on Mar 31, 2023 3:47:52 GMT
I'm not sure if this may help, but a thread I started a while back about the best Deepeeka swords: sbg-sword-forum.forums.net/thread/62341/deepeeka-gems But the more important part: "From what I remember, these are always held in high regard (*Edit - only adding ones that I've seen multiple positive comments on to help with subjective bias) : - Fulham Gladius (AH2007). - Tiberius Gladius (AH2008). - Silver Pugio (AH3264S). - Greek Xiphos (AH4236). - 15th Century Rondel Dagger (PRD101). - Type XIX Alexandria Arsenal Milanese Finger Guard Sword (PRS401). From my understanding, these models were developed with the help of the folks over at RAT Forum: - Fulham Gladius (AH2007). - Tiberius Gladius (AH2008). - 5th Century Feltwell Spatha (AH2009). - Mainz Wederath Gladius (AH3311E). " To add to this - i currently now own a Fulham (AH2007) and a Pompeii (AH4211B). From my research both of these fall within historical parameters in pretty much all aspects. Some of the most historically accurate gladii under $500. |
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