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Post by glendon on Nov 12, 2022 16:52:17 GMT
Hi, Folks!
I just received a maille shirt from Lord of Battles, through KOA. Its my first, ever. I have nothing but good things to say about it; shipped timely, packaged nicely, oiled but not dripping with goo, no loose rings, nicely crafted. Kudos to both manufacturer and distributor.
I put it on and had more insights on armor wearing in an hour than in the past three decades. It felt more than comfortable, it felt right. I was supposed to be wearing maille.
Here's the thing: I'm kind of scared of it as designed. Yep, I mean that. I tried to take it off and I couldn't, and very quickly I became claustrophobic. Just a few minutes with my head bent over, breathing increasing hot air, and wriggling as if in an underground tunnel. Thankfully my wife helped me out of it. But the fact remains that I simply do not like to be in something I cannot ditch quickly, all by myself.
I was wondering if that feeling prompted others to develop coats of plate or brigandine.
My question to you, out there in knowledge land, is this: Are there maille shirts extant that closed down the front or side? I'm thinking of doing just that, and adding an additional flap of mail over the seam. Would the structural integrity of the shirt be completely compromised by so doing?
All thoughts are welcome and useful, thanks.
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Post by Lord Newport on Nov 12, 2022 17:06:31 GMT
Hi, Folks! I just received a maille shirt from Lord of Battles, through KOA. Its my first, ever. I have nothing but good things to say about it; shipped timely, packaged nicely, oiled but not dripping with goo, no loose rings, nicely crafted. Kudos to both manufacturer and distributor. I put it on and had more insights on armor wearing in an hour than in the past three decades. It felt more than comfortable, it felt right. I was supposed to be wearing maille. Here's the thing: I'm kind of scared of it as designed. Yep, I mean that. I tried to take it off and I couldn't, and very quickly I became claustrophobic. Just a few minutes with my head bent over, breathing increasing hot air, and wriggling as if in an underground tunnel. Thankfully my wife helped me out of it. But the fact remains that I simply do not like to be in something I cannot ditch quickly, all by myself. I was wondering if that feeling prompted others to develop coats of plate or brigandine. My question to you, out there in knowledge land, is this: Are there maille shirts extant that closed down the front or side? I'm thinking of doing just that, and adding an additional flap of mail over the seam. Would the structural integrity of the shirt be completely compromised by so doing? All thoughts are welcome and useful, thanks. There is a reason Knights kept Squires...  |
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Post by AndiTheBarvarian on Nov 12, 2022 17:08:01 GMT
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Post by pgandy on Nov 12, 2022 17:17:34 GMT
I like maille. Most of mine I made and is butted. I do have some riveted from KoA and there is as much difference as not and day. The riveted stuff is lighter and thinner. As for removing mail I suspect that you can relate to this: 😄
On the serious side and more to your issues, removing and putting on a mail shirt is not difficult when done properly. The following video will address the matter. His method can be modified. For me, I generally have both knees on the floor, otherwise it’s about the same. When putting on sometimes I need to jump up and down once or twice and everything falls into place. Treat it much like a sweater and start from the bottom when removing.
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Post by AndiTheBarvarian on Nov 12, 2022 17:55:30 GMT
Ah, those desperate moments curling on the floor like a worm...
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Post by glendon on Nov 12, 2022 18:13:49 GMT
Thanks, Folks! Lord Newport: I know. Alas, I'm the yeomanry at best. Andi: Is the shirt pictured historic, do you know? Pgandy: The video was quite helpful. But even after reading your posted account of your LOB hauberk, I ordered the "fits up to 44"" and it only get over a cotton turtleneck jersey on my 38" chest. The gambeson I ordered for it will have to make do on the exterior. The staunch peasantry of the Dark Wood!  |
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Post by AndiTheBarvarian on Nov 12, 2022 19:00:10 GMT
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Post by pgandy on Nov 12, 2022 20:07:46 GMT
I don’t remember the details now but I ordered a hauberk from KoA and I think they sent me someone’s return if for only lacking much grease. It turned out a bit small so I put in two vertical panels, one in front and the other rear, solving the problem. But I suggest you return the hauberk instead.
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Post by glendon on Nov 13, 2022 21:58:40 GMT
Problem solved. I took out a single row of riveted links down the front, just past my sternum, and then laced it up. It fits snugly, but slides right off. If my opponent lands a thrust dead center, I'm toast, but that's just God's Will. I'm happy knowing I can divest the garment in 30 seconds. I do have plans to add a piece of plate along the seam, however. God, so the old ones tell us, help those that help themselves. Thanks again, Community!  |
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Post by pgandy on Nov 13, 2022 22:27:29 GMT
I'm glad the problem is solved.
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Post by blackprince on Nov 16, 2022 19:45:32 GMT
Problem solved. I took out a single row of riveted links down the front, just past my sternum, and then laced it up. It fits snugly, but slides right off. If my opponent lands a thrust dead center, I'm toast, but that's just God's Will. I recommend covering the center seam with a Chainmail coif if that bothers you. Looking great! |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2022 13:37:56 GMT
Problem solved. I took out a single row of riveted links down the front, just past my sternum, and then laced it up. It fits snugly, but slides right off. If my opponent lands a thrust dead center, I'm toast, but that's just God's Will. I recommend covering the center seam with a Chainmail coif if that bothers you. Looking great! That's genius. You wouldn't even know it was there |
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Post by glendon on Nov 17, 2022 13:44:16 GMT
Blackprince, good suggestion. I'm also experimenting with stand-alone lacing made of dog-leash chain, or a lamellar scale gorget of sorts. Armor, I am finding, can be even more addictive than swords. |
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Post by pgandy on Nov 17, 2022 13:54:01 GMT
Armor, I am finding, can be even more addictive than swords. That's what I find. |
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Post by AndiTheBarvarian on Nov 17, 2022 15:09:34 GMT
Or adhesive...
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2022 18:13:13 GMT
Yea ever since I started buying armour, I've starting neglecting getting new swords lol. I'm always scoping for the next piece of armour to add to my kit
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