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Post by MichaelRS on Aug 7, 2022 4:54:25 GMT
Can anyone tell me what sword is used by the British Horse Guards and who has it for sale... genuine or decent replica?
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Post by Lord Newport on Aug 7, 2022 5:07:31 GMT
Can anyone tell me what sword is used by the British Horse Guards and who has it for sale... genuine or decent replica? British Horse Guards is a little generic. Are you looking for the unit that parades at Buck House? Google is still your friend. The Queen’s Life Guard is conducted by soldiers of the Household Cavalry Mounted Regiment at Horse Guards. Horse Guards is named after the troops who have mounted The Queen’s Life Guard here since the Restoration of King Charles II in 1660. Every weekday, whatever the season or weather, members of the Household Cavalry Mounted Regiment ride down from Hyde Park Barracks in Knightsbridge to take over guard duties at 11:00am for the next twenty–four hours.
The Household Cavalry Mounted Regiment consists of a squadron from each of the two senior Regiments of the British Army: The Life Guards wear red tunics and white plumed helmets, and The Blues and Royals wear blue tunics and red plumed helmets.www.householddivision.org.uk/index.php?action=queen-life-guardSwords: pooleysword.com/en/Household_Cavalry_Troopers%27_Swordwww.kultofathena.com/product/british-life-guards-cavalry-sword/www.windlass.com/product-category/military-swords/uk/
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Post by MichaelRS on Aug 7, 2022 8:20:28 GMT
Can anyone tell me what sword is used by the British Horse Guards and who has it for sale... genuine or decent replica? British Horse Guards is a little generic. Are you looking for the unit that parades at Buck House? Google is still your friend. The Queen’s Life Guard is conducted by soldiers of the Household Cavalry Mounted Regiment at Horse Guards. Horse Guards is named after the troops who have mounted The Queen’s Life Guard here since the Restoration of King Charles II in 1660. Every weekday, whatever the season or weather, members of the Household Cavalry Mounted Regiment ride down from Hyde Park Barracks in Knightsbridge to take over guard duties at 11:00am for the next twenty–four hours.
The Household Cavalry Mounted Regiment consists of a squadron from each of the two senior Regiments of the British Army: The Life Guards wear red tunics and white plumed helmets, and The Blues and Royals wear blue tunics and red plumed helmets.www.householddivision.org.uk/index.php?action=queen-life-guardSwords: pooleysword.com/en/Household_Cavalry_Troopers%27_Swordwww.kultofathena.com/product/british-life-guards-cavalry-sword/www.windlass.com/product-category/military-swords/uk/ Well I meant the Life Guards specifically. But I thought they would have a general issue sword that they all used. Thanks for the links
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Post by Lord Newport on Aug 7, 2022 13:40:18 GMT
Well I meant the Life Guards specifically. But I thought they would have a general issue sword that they all used. Thanks for the links It looks like according to Pooley Sword of London and Sheffield, that both regiments in the Household cavalry (Life Guards and the Blues and Royals) have a specific sword they are issued... different from other regiments: pooleysword.com/en/Household_Cavalry_Troopers%27_Sword
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Post by pgandy on Aug 7, 2022 14:38:49 GMT
You don’t say for what purpose. Most militaries now use unsharpened ss blades, which is fine for the purpose. Blade enthusiasts would call them SLOs. Best check on what is offered before buying. Don’t expect to receive one sharpened regardless of what you buy, an official authorized model or replica. Of the choices above, and there appears to be some good ones although I did not check them out, also there is Universal’s model. KoA presently has this is stock. www.kultofathena.com/product/victorian-life-guards-officer-sword/ My experience with Universal’s swords has been good. Generally the finish is excellent. However, there are some characteristics I find that I’d like to point out as they may nullify your desire. This particular sword is of EN9 steel. I find their EN9 blades to be a bit on the soft side. I don’t think it’s the EN9 but their tempering process for that steel. They can be sharpened to a cutting edge. I’ve never damaged an edge on backyard targets but the edge needs to be dressed down more frequently than my other blades. They tend to be blade heavy. The etching on the one etched blade I received from them is less than perfect, but by no means noticeable at arm’s length. It should also be noted that blade is more lavishly etched than the Guard's blade. They are very well finished and make nice pieces. KoA offers a sharpening service on this one. If you choose that I would make sure to specify to sharpen the true edge from just forward of the etching to tip as not to ruin the etching. And the false edge from just forward of the fuller to tip. Otherwise they may miss that portion. Don’t worry, you will still be able to cut with it if that’s your intension. Check the other offerings first. Personally I would seriously consider this one. But then I don’t know your intended end use.
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Post by MichaelRS on Aug 9, 2022 4:33:57 GMT
But then I don’t know your intended end use. Well right now I'm in the "just looking" phase. Trying to Branch out from katana's to a more practical one-handed sword. Some sort of saber, but with some historical design or theme behind it
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Post by Lord Newport on Aug 9, 2022 5:32:44 GMT
But then I don’t know your intended end use. Well right now I'm in the "just looking" phase. Trying to Branch out from katana's to a more practical one-handed sword. Some sort of saber, but with some historical design or theme behind it Why not buy an original Civil War M1840 heavy or M1860 light cavalry saber. They can be had in good condition for under $700.
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Post by MichaelRS on Aug 9, 2022 7:49:08 GMT
Well right now I'm in the "just looking" phase. Trying to Branch out from katana's to a more practical one-handed sword. Some sort of saber, but with some historical design or theme behind it Why not buy an original Civil War M1840 heavy or M1860 light cavalry saber. They can be had in good condition for under $700. That's a thought. I'll look into that. Thank you.
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Post by pellius on Aug 9, 2022 12:39:18 GMT
But then I don’t know your intended end use. Well right now I'm in the "just looking" phase. Trying to Branch out from katana's to a more practical one-handed sword. Some sort of saber, but with some historical design or theme behind it Congratulations on branching out! I started off with Chinese style swords, then got a few lower end katana. When I discovered European cavalry sabers, though, I was home! Cav sabers are my absolute favorite. There’s a ton of easy to find info - in English, no less! - to be found free on the internet. Genuine antiques in good condition can be commonly found for a modest price (leagues less than, say, nihonto). To my eye, they just look “right.” Some models even handle nicely. Obviously, a cav saber is made to be used from horseback. Officer, dress, and and piquet weight cav sabers tend to be lightened versions that are easy to wield but honestly not very serious as cav weapons. For a good looking cav saber that can reasonably be used on foot, many folks (including myself) go for mounted artillery sabers. To me, the Prussian 1873 or French 1829 cav artillery sabers capture the gorgeous dignity of their larger brethren while being fearsome when lacking a horse. Just a few thoughts. Good hunting!
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Post by AndiTheBarvarian on Aug 9, 2022 13:04:29 GMT
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Post by pgandy on Aug 9, 2022 16:29:00 GMT
Like Pellius I’m glad to see you branching out. Unlike Pellius I started with katanas then got interested in Chinese swords before the European stuff. I like sabres but find cavalry sabres a bit long for my tight quarters and more blade heavy than my preference. In other words, not the best for fencing. I do like sabres but only have two for dismounted use. A CS USMC NCO Sabre, the better of the two, and a Universal M1902 that I cut with and enjoy its handling. Originals can be found on Amazon and eBay at most economical prices if that's your desire. I got mine new from KoA. That one is light, agile, and fast. It’s also nickel plated. I dare say that my Windlass OM M1860 will out cut it, although I do not recommend that sabre because as it comes it’s a dud. Over time I’ve put much work and effort into improving mine and am satisfied but find either of my other two much better in all respects except power.
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Post by MichaelRS on Aug 11, 2022 19:17:17 GMT
Thank you everybody. I appreciate your encouragement, advice and references.
It's not something that I'm going to start doing tomorrow (I still have the idea for one more Katana from HanBon 😁), but hopefully sometime over the next year.
Once again, everything is appreciated. 👍
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