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Post by Yagoro on Aug 7, 2022 4:16:32 GMT
Curious what style you guys like the best. Horizontal cut typical of isshin ryu
Downward cut typical of Itto ryu
Upward cut typical of yagyu shinkage
I'm a fan of the downward cut of Itto for the power you can put behind it, and the upward cut of yagyu as it throws opponents off and can be followed up rather easily. The horizontal cut of isshin however is probably the easiest to pull off and the quickest.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2022 4:25:56 GMT
I don't have the name memorized but a cut from top left to bottom right, and I'm right handed. Even when I use a single handed sword, I find this angle feels best to perform a good quality cut, draw cut or hewing cut
Of course I mean purely from a target cutting perspective, from an actual sparring perspective I would have to go try some sparring with that in mind.
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Post by Yagoro on Aug 7, 2022 4:45:56 GMT
I don't have the name memorized but a cut from top left to bottom right, and I'm right handed. Even when I use a single handed sword, I find this angle feels best to perform a good quality cut, draw cut or hewing cut Of course I mean purely from a target cutting perspective, from an actual sparring perspective I would have to go try some sparring with that in mind. Yep that sounds like itto ryu. Feels the most natural out of all of them, also allows you to pull off wacky timing to throw an opponent off |
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Post by RufusScorpius on Aug 7, 2022 14:30:14 GMT
In what context? Target cutting or sparring? If target cutting, then aren't points awarded for completing each type of cut and therefore you should know each one? And if sparring, you better dangum well know every kind of draw cut so you can take advantage of whatever opening your opponent gives you- which means that having a favorite is nonsense.
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Post by Yagoro on Aug 7, 2022 16:50:12 GMT
In what context? Target cutting or sparring? If target cutting, then aren't points awarded for completing each type of cut and therefore you should know each one? And if sparring, you better dangum well know every kind of draw cut so you can take advantage of whatever opening your opponent gives you- which means that having a favorite is nonsense. Which one do you enjoy doing the most? Also using a draw cut in sparring is a little ridiculous to begin with unless you are using it as your initial attack |
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Post by Yagoro on Aug 7, 2022 17:15:15 GMT
Another thing, Rufus, a person with your experience sparring has to have some sort of attack you enjoy doing whenever the chance is presented. Theres no way there arent certain techniques you prefer over others
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2022 17:30:25 GMT
In what context? Target cutting or sparring? If target cutting, then aren't points awarded for completing each type of cut and therefore you should know each one? And if sparring, you better dangum well know every kind of draw cut so you can take advantage of whatever opening your opponent gives you- which means that having a favorite is nonsense. I haven't done anything in the context of a dojo in years lol. Even back then I didn't bother memorizing any of the cut names cause I was a dumb teenager. I've done sparring a few years back, was learning the the names for long sword guards, but I didn't memorize all of them either, not easy to do when you have billions of other hobbies Why should I memorize the names, exactly? It's difficult enough to memorize music theory, color theory, shape language, and every other thing, and im assuming that comment was directed at me I am gonna emphasize that recreating ancient sword techniques isn't my only hobby. Neither is collecting swords and armour, which is why my collection is quite pathetic compared to everyone else's. Edit: maybe what you said wasn't even directed at me, but since I'm the only guy here not knowing the names, I'm assuming it was. I don't remember every karate form I learned either, or it's name. Heian nidan, Heian shodan, and so on. Doesn't help that my new town doesn't have any sword arts either. For the record, I been mostly focusing on boxing anyway. I have been finding difficulty in memorizing the complex combinations of Tyson's peekaboo style as it is as well as pulling them off with power. I haven't practiced a proper sword art in years |
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Post by RufusScorpius on Aug 8, 2022 21:19:31 GMT
No, my brother, I wasn't directing anything at any particular person. I was speaking in generalities. Please accept my apologies if you think I was being rude to you specifically.
And I'll be honest, I also don't know the Japanese (or Chinese) names of all the cuts because it's not important to me. What I need to know is how to do it, not how to pronounce it. Speaking for me alone, I am not interested in preservation of culture or traditions, I am interested in the functionality of the sword mechanics in combat. Not saying that learning the tea ceremony is bad: it's not, but it's just not for me and not what I want to do with the hobby.
And I really don't have a "favorite cut" so to speak.. well.. I guess I do have a favorite attack? I like to draw high, then flip inverted and strike low and upwards across the forearms of the opponent then draw across the chest in passing. I find that move works more often than not. But is it technically a "favorite" or is it just one that I can do best in a majority of situations? I don't know.
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Post by Yagoro on Aug 9, 2022 1:49:41 GMT
No, my brother, I wasn't directing anything at any particular person. I was speaking in generalities. Please accept my apologies if you think I was being rude to you specifically. And I'll be honest, I also don't know the Japanese (or Chinese) names of all the cuts because it's not important to me. What I need to know is how to do it, not how to pronounce it. Speaking for me alone, I am not interested in preservation of culture or traditions, I am interested in the functionality of the sword mechanics in combat. Not saying that learning the tea ceremony is bad: it's not, but it's just not for me and not what I want to do with the hobby. And I really don't have a "favorite cut" so to speak.. well.. I guess I do have a favorite attack? I like to draw high, then flip inverted and strike low and upwards across the forearms of the opponent then draw across the chest in passing. I find that move works more often than not. But is it technically a "favorite" or is it just one that I can do best in a majority of situations? I don't know. I didn't take it as an insult, Rufus. I understand what you mean. In general I really like going for the stomach, maybe to a fault haha |
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Post by Jamesovich3 on Aug 22, 2022 22:49:15 GMT
Not really a draw cut but a favorite draw of mine (just because it feels cool) was the beginning of munazukushi from mugai ryu. Although I think it was originally from jikyu ryu.
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Post by jasm299 on Sept 5, 2022 7:54:17 GMT
I also like downward cut typical of Itto.
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Post by RufusScorpius on Sept 9, 2022 16:59:14 GMT
I also like downward cut typical of Itto. It's one of the easiest to learn and the strongest. Also the most intuitive. It's easy to focus on the easy cuts and neglect to practice the ones that we aren't so familiar with. It's wise to spend 10% of your practice time on what we already know, and the other 90% working on the things we don't. |
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