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Post by legacyofthesword on Jul 18, 2022 5:23:54 GMT
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Post by treeslicer on Jul 18, 2022 14:40:12 GMT
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Post by RufusScorpius on Jul 18, 2022 14:40:28 GMT
Interesting. I have always been fascinated by Pompeii and Herculaneum.
The article really doesn't reveal much information apart from the guy was from central Italy. This is not exactly groundbreaking information.
We have actually learned far more about the people just from their bones and the fact that the entire city and all it's contents was preserved at an exact moment on a known date. We know to a very high degree that the general health and nutrition of the people was very high, including their servants and slaves. Not surprising this, Pompeii was buried at the height of the Empire and was a wealthy resort city. Roman citizens in general lived healthy lives even out in the countryside and had abundant food supplies (for the most part). As with any ancient civilization the state of medical knowledge was very primitive and they were still subject to famine from time to time.
Overall, not a bad time in which to live all things considered.
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Post by treeslicer on Jul 18, 2022 15:02:12 GMT
Interesting. I have always been fascinated by Pompeii and Herculaneum. The article really doesn't reveal much information apart from the guy was from central Italy. This is not exactly groundbreaking information. We have actually learned far more about the people just from their bones and the fact that the entire city and all it's contents was preserved at an exact moment on a known date. We know to a very high degree that the general health and nutrition of the people was very high, including their servants and slaves. Not surprising this, Pompeii was buried at the height of the Empire and was a wealthy resort city. Roman citizens in general lived healthy lives even out in the countryside and had abundant food supplies (for the most part). As with any ancient civilization the state of medical knowledge was very primitive and they were still subject to famine from time to time. Overall, not a bad time in which to live all things considered. The scientific article better repays reading than the media poo-poo. Given the longstanding (and long dismissed as BS) Roman claims to Trojan (Wilusan) ancestry, I find the strong, but attenuated, Anatolian similarities in the DNA very suggestive. Perhaps, given the spread of the "Sea Peoples" during the Bronze Age collapse, there was something to the Aeneas legend after all. See below:
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Post by AndiTheBarvarian on Jul 18, 2022 15:08:50 GMT
They had SPQRNA!
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Post by RufusScorpius on Jul 18, 2022 15:26:38 GMT
Nice one! I wouldn't be too quick to dismiss the Trojan connection. You have to remember a couple of things: 1. The DNA sample size is 1 (one) 2. Rome was founded (by traditional date) around 750 years before the eruption of Vesuvius meaning the sample date was much later than the founding of the city. 3. Pompeii was a Roman version of a Florida retirement community/ resort city- many people from all over the known world would have been there in the summer of 79AD. There was plenty of time for the DNA to diversify, even for ancient times. Rome had several wars with neighbors and North Africans, so the DNA pool gets a little muddier also with soldiers from both sides "cross pollinating" the local populations. We also don't know the family history of the individual DNA sample: he may or may not be from one of the founding families of the city. In any event, it's an interesting find and opens the door to more samples. The more we learn, the more complete of a picture we can get of our ancestry outside of the history books.
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