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Post by Lancelot Chan on Mar 15, 2022 18:14:53 GMT
Not every challenge was accomplished beautifully.
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Post by pellius on Mar 16, 2022 3:52:04 GMT
Very entertaining
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Post by Lord Newport on Mar 16, 2022 4:01:28 GMT
Wayyy too much shoulder dipping...looks like everyone is swinging a baseball bat.
This student has good form...
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Post by markus313 on Mar 16, 2022 6:37:14 GMT
Wayyy too much shoulder dipping...looks like everyone is swinging a baseball bat. This student has good form... On tatami. But will he cut double newspaper rolls with this form?
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Post by Lancelot Chan on Mar 16, 2022 13:13:02 GMT
After some adjustments on the blade, targets position and diameter, I challenged it again.
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Post by Lancelot Chan on Mar 16, 2022 13:58:45 GMT
Glad at least you had a good laugh. :D
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Post by Lancelot Chan on Mar 16, 2022 14:00:17 GMT
On tatami. But will he cut double newspaper rolls with this form? The newspapers rolls all have PPR plastic water pipes inside acting as the bony parts. So, totally different from tatami. Way more difficult to cut.
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Post by Lord Newport on Mar 16, 2022 16:22:55 GMT
On tatami. But will he cut double newspaper rolls with this form? The newspapers rolls all have PPR plastic water pipes inside acting as the bony parts. So, totally different from tatami. Way more difficult to cut. Cutting your heavy targets looks challenging and fun BUT I was taught that JSA is all about technique not muscle. Developing muscle memory for poor technique is never a good idea. To each their own I guess as long as no one gets hurt...
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Post by Lancelot Chan on Mar 16, 2022 20:14:21 GMT
For my friends who are interested in how our usual targets and techniques scale to the "Japanese styles", here I present a video where we cut "used japanese tatami mats", the most difficult kind of mats to cut.
In the video, you may compare the "easiness" of our cuts compare to our usual practice, and also compare our results with the others who were in the competition. Enjoy.
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Post by Lord Newport on Mar 16, 2022 23:55:19 GMT
For my friends who are interested in how our usual targets and techniques scale to the "Japanese styles", here I present a video where we cut "used japanese tatami mats", the most difficult kind of mats to cut. In the video, you may compare the "easiness" of our cuts compare to our usual practice, and also compare our results with the others who were in the competition. Enjoy. Super wide swords, super long swords, loose tatami rolls... not very comparable IMHO.
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Post by markus313 on Mar 17, 2022 11:00:27 GMT
For my friends who are interested in how our usual targets and techniques scale to the "Japanese styles", here I present a video where we cut "used japanese tatami mats", the most difficult kind of mats to cut. In the video, you may compare the "easiness" of our cuts compare to our usual practice, and also compare our results with the others who were in the competition. Enjoy. Super wide swords, super long swords, loose tatami rolls... not very comparable IMHO. So what’s your point then? This not being JSA? Not your school? Nothing of what's yours? What’s your point?
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Post by tera on Mar 17, 2022 15:46:48 GMT
Most JSA emphasize traditionalism. Naturally, emphasis on form is a consequence of that. For koryu, there is undoubtably a reason behind the details, even the odd ones. Perhaps an awkward posture or movement to a modern practitioner in keikogi was a necessary adaptation for samurai in full armor.
I have always enjoyed and appreciated Lancelot Chan's videos for what they are, not what I impose on them based on my studies in JSA. He provides performance testing of various blades against artificial targets designed to better simulate "real" targets. I find value in that, even if the form is something outside my experience.
People in 3-gun competitions do things today that High Power competitive marksmen would mock and sneer at. The results, however, speak for themselves. So, I suppose different purposes, different contexts.
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Post by Lord Newport on Mar 17, 2022 18:07:55 GMT
Super wide swords, super long swords, loose tatami rolls... not very comparable IMHO. So what’s your point then? This not being JSA? Not your school? Nothing of what's yours? What’s your point? All I did was note my observation of the extreme biomechanics of the practioners in the videos as opposed to what I was taught in JSA (Toyama Ryu and Mugai Ryu) and I posted an example of what I thought was good form. The reason I noticed and commented on it is because when I started studying JSA, I used to think I had to muscle the blade thru the target and I dipped my shoulders way too much as well. It took a while for my Sensei to break me of the habit. When I look at cutting videos the first thing I notice is form and technique. You can always get a big enough sword and use enough brut force to cut thru something. Others, the OP in particular, focus on the successful cutting/destruction of the target...To each their own I guess but when you post videos like this, one should expect commentary of all kinds.
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