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Post by Kane Shen on Feb 5, 2022 17:29:50 GMT
Despite the recent collaborations with Valiant Armoury for a premium line of sword designed by Angus Trim (3 models for the Vision line and according to Gus more models are to come this year), he is still designing some more swords for Kingston Arms—one more type XIIIa (or rather in Gus’ own extended typology, type XIIIc) “bastard sword of war” are released by Kingston Arms and CAS Iberia and are now for sale at the SBG store. sbg-sword-store.sword-buyers-guide.com/product1199.html As a shorter war sword, with a 32.5” blade, the official stats show that it’s quite hefty at 3 lbs 4 oz. Gus’ own type XIIIc with the same dimensions weighs only 2 lbs 12 oz. I understand Kingston Arms isn’t in a position to perfectly implement his design of complex distal taper, but a difference this big spells trouble, if it doesn’t replicate at least in part Gus’ signature handling characteristics. Below is a type XIIIc war sword that Gus made himself.  |
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Post by AJGBlack on Feb 5, 2022 18:05:35 GMT
Maybe it's the weight including scabbard?
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Post by Kane Shen on Feb 5, 2022 18:09:19 GMT
Maybe it's the weight including scabbard? Yeah it’s possible but somehow I doubt it. SBG store always lists the sword’s weight as it is not with the scabbard included. |
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Post by AJGBlack on Feb 5, 2022 20:50:35 GMT
Maybe it's the weight including scabbard? Yeah it’s possible but somehow I doubt it. SBG store always lists the sword’s weight as it is not with the scabbard included. It could also be that they just copy/pasted from the write up on CAS Iberia, as the info is identical there. If they're drop shipping and not doing their own measurements then that would make sense. |
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Post by Kane Shen on Feb 5, 2022 21:00:46 GMT
Yeah it’s possible but somehow I doubt it. SBG store always lists the sword’s weight as it is not with the scabbard included. It could also be that they just copy/pasted from the write up on CAS Iberia, as the info is identical there. If they're drop shipping and not doing their own measurements then that would make sense. It certainly is possible, as they don't even have detailed photos yet. Guess we will know once the reviews are in. |
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Post by blackprince on Feb 17, 2022 2:25:26 GMT
My Kingston Arms XIIIa weighs in at 3 lb 3 oz.
I measured the distal taper on the blade starting out a little over .025” at the base and gradually tapers down to about 0.16” over the first half of the blade. The second half of the blade tapers down to 0.13” just before getting to the tip.
The balance feels good for use with 2 hands. I really like the feel of it when I swing it. I don’t have issues stopping the blade or transitioning between guards. For me it is too heavy to use one handed with confidence.
Other things you might like to know: rippling along the polish of the blade, secondary bevel, and a bit of leather overlap on the handle. The excess leather on the handle makes it a little uncomfortable to hold on to for a long time. However, the blade is not overly ‘whippy’ as I have heard XIIIa replicas tend to be. It is also sharp. Overall, I like it.
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Post by Kane Shen on Feb 17, 2022 3:33:50 GMT
My Kingston Arms XIIIa weighs in at 3 lb 3 oz. I measured the distal taper on the blade starting out a little over .025” at the base and gradually tapers down to about 0.16” over the first half of the blade. The second half of the blade tapers down to 0.13” just before getting to the tip. The balance feels good for use with 2 hands. I really like the feel of it when I swing it. I don’t have issues stopping the blade or transitioning between guards. For me it is too heavy to use one handed with confidence. Other things you might like to know: rippling along the polish of the blade, secondary bevel, and a bit of leather overlap on the handle. The excess leather on the handle makes it a little uncomfortable to hold on to for a long time. However, the blade is not overly ‘whippy’ as I have heard XIIIa replicas tend to be. It is also sharp. Overall, I like it. Thanks for the very informative first impression, with very specific stats like the distal taper. Sounds like a good choice for a smaller great sword of war. I think it's designed primarily as a two-handed sword despite the blade being not too long. It seems to be fairly consistent with the quality of Kingston Arm's Atrim design swords. Some sub type of XIII sword tend to be relatively thin compared to other medieval hand-and-a-half swords, probably due to the fuller and lenticular cross section. 0.25" Seems to be a good starting thickness. |
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Post by AJGBlack on Feb 17, 2022 16:33:08 GMT
My Kingston Arms XIIIa weighs in at 3 lb 3 oz. I measured the distal taper on the blade starting out a little over .025” at the base and gradually tapers down to about 0.16” over the first half of the blade. The second half of the blade tapers down to 0.13” just before getting to the tip. The balance feels good for use with 2 hands. I really like the feel of it when I swing it. I don’t have issues stopping the blade or transitioning between guards. For me it is too heavy to use one handed with confidence. Other things you might like to know: rippling along the polish of the blade, secondary bevel, and a bit of leather overlap on the handle. The excess leather on the handle makes it a little uncomfortable to hold on to for a long time. However, the blade is not overly ‘whippy’ as I have heard XIIIa replicas tend to be. It is also sharp. Overall, I like it. Thanks for the info. Any plans for a full review? |
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Post by jhykron on Feb 17, 2022 19:02:54 GMT
Figures. We start getting informative reviews and now it's sold out.
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Post by Kane Shen on Feb 17, 2022 20:06:23 GMT
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