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Post by tera on Jan 15, 2022 17:15:17 GMT
Probably not the answer you are looking for, but I'm fairly confident you could work with a 3D artist and have the parts "lost casting" 3D printed in the material of your choice for much less than $3k.
Stef, one of our members, did just that through Shapeways. You might ping him about costs and what to expect.
My wife and I have 3D printed wedding bands, as another example. We are much happier to have them truly unique to us, and the cost was at least one order of magnitude lower than the jewelry industry.
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Post by novak77 on Jan 15, 2022 22:06:37 GMT
Since there have been a couple comments around custom Koshirae. Are we talking about fully custom carved fuchi kashira menuki tsuba? Even with custom nihonto at the 10k usd mark you will find "production or limited production" fittings are the standard. I have done some research looking into getting a set of koshirae made and estimates typically land in the price range of 3 to 5k (and up for shakudo) among well reputed artists. So the question: Are there custom Koshirae makers at lower price points I should be aware of? Not to derail the smith thread too much. Im in line for a custom Fuchi, and Kashira from Roman Urban. The price was around $1200 for Shakudo, and my design is pretty simple, thunder clouds and lightning. I first reached out to him May of last year, and I don't expect fittings till at least the 3rd quarter of this year. IIRC, your guess of $3-5k sounds about right, from what Roman was saying a full set would cost. Cheers
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Post by bradc on Jan 16, 2022 5:19:00 GMT
Probably not the answer you are looking for, but I'm fairly confident you could work with a 3D artist and have the parts "lost casting" 3D printed in the material of your choice for much less than $3k. Hmm I hadn't thought of 3D printing lost wax I should look into that for my Iaito that needs a tune up 🤔 Im in line for a custom Fuchi, and Kashira from Roman Urban. The price was around $1200 for Shakudo, and my design is pretty simple, thunder clouds and lightning. I first reached out to him May of last year, and I don't expect fittings till at least the 3rd quarter of this year. IIRC, your guess of $3-5k sounds about right, from what Roman was saying a full set would cost. Cheers I have been admiring his work for a while he makes some really great looking stuff. That pricing sounds really fair for shakudo. You will have to share pics when you get yours. He is definitely on my wish list...
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Post by Stef on Jan 16, 2022 10:44:37 GMT
Probably not the answer you are looking for, but I'm fairly confident you could work with a 3D artist and have the parts "lost casting" 3D printed in the material of your choice for much less than $3k. Stef, one of our members, did just that through Shapeways. You might ping him about costs and what to expect. My wife and I have 3D printed wedding bands, as another example. We are much happier to have them truly unique to us, and the cost was at least one order of magnitude lower than the jewelry industry. thanks you for the shout out
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Post by junesbanunes on Jan 17, 2022 7:38:15 GMT
Since there have been a couple comments around custom Koshirae. Are we talking about fully custom carved fuchi kashira menuki tsuba? Even with custom nihonto at the 10k usd mark you will find "production or limited production" fittings are the standard. I have done some research looking into getting a set of koshirae made and estimates typically land in the price range of 3 to 5k (and up for shakudo) among well reputed artists. So the question: Are there custom Koshirae makers at lower price points I should be aware of? Not to derail the smith thread too much. I have a custom fuchigashira on the way from Manuel Coden of Koden Tosogu, very reasonable prices and seems to do wonderful work. Mine will be around €200 for iron and some simple carvings. I can also recommend Mikael Berg of Nihonto Iaito Restoration for mounting. He does traditional techniques and a full koshirae for around €1000 depending on what you want.
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Post by bradc on Jan 18, 2022 18:10:03 GMT
thanks you for the shout out People should follow your Instagram too. Your work looks great. I really liked the recent tsuba. Since there have been a couple comments around custom Koshirae. Are we talking about fully custom carved fuchi kashira menuki tsuba? Even with custom nihonto at the 10k usd mark you will find "production or limited production" fittings are the standard. I have done some research looking into getting a set of koshirae made and estimates typically land in the price range of 3 to 5k (and up for shakudo) among well reputed artists. So the question: Are there custom Koshirae makers at lower price points I should be aware of? Not to derail the smith thread too much. I have a custom fuchigashira on the way from Manuel Coden of Koden Tosogu, very reasonable prices and seems to do wonderful work. Mine will be around €200 for iron and some simple carvings. I can also recommend Mikael Berg of Nihonto Iaito Restoration for mounting. He does traditional techniques and a full koshirae for around €1000 depending on what you want. Thanks for the suggestions!
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Post by Arlequin on Jan 18, 2022 19:53:50 GMT
Since there have been a couple comments around custom Koshirae. Are we talking about fully custom carved fuchi kashira menuki tsuba? Even with custom nihonto at the 10k usd mark you will find "production or limited production" fittings are the standard. I have done some research looking into getting a set of koshirae made and estimates typically land in the price range of 3 to 5k (and up for shakudo) among well reputed artists. So the question: Are there custom Koshirae makers at lower price points I should be aware of? Not to derail the smith thread too much. I have a custom fuchigashira on the way from Manuel Coden of Koden Tosogu, very reasonable prices and seems to do wonderful work. Mine will be around €200 for iron and some simple carvings. I can also recommend Mikael Berg of Nihonto Iaito Restoration for mounting. He does traditional techniques and a full koshirae for around €1000 depending on what you want. You should update the main post for those, plenty of people looking with naked blades/old projects that need to be dressed up. I would also put in a Asterrisk(*) next to Bolf and Huawei, as they are both backlogged with poor communication, If I was a newbie who took the list at facevalue, I'd be pretty pissed that no one warned me before sending $1000 off into the ether lol
editt also worth noting Motohara, will also completely dress a 3rd party blade for a reasonable fee. Their work is pretty pretty nice and a tad more affordable than more traditional craftsman like roman urban.
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Post by junesbanunes on Jan 19, 2022 8:31:39 GMT
I would also put in a Asterrisk(*) next to Bolf and Huawei, as they are both backlogged with poor communication, If I was a newbie who took the list at facevalue, I'd be pretty pissed that no one warned me before sending $1000 off into the ether lol editt also worth noting Motohara, will also completely dress a 3rd party blade for a reasonable fee. Their work is pretty pretty nice and a tad more affordable than more traditional craftsman like roman urban.
I wasn't planning on maintaining an updated list as there's a lot of info and opinions in the thread and I hope someone who is interested will read the whole thing. But sure if the mods want to make this pinned and help with updating the list I could update my first post. Interesting choice of steel James Raw has made, anyone have any experience of this? I know the chinise offer springsteel and they have a good reputation for beeing tough beaters, but they are all through hardened. I've never seen differentially hardened springsteel before.
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Post by Stef on Jan 19, 2022 12:33:03 GMT
I would also put in a Asterrisk(*) next to Bolf and Huawei, as they are both backlogged with poor communication, If I was a newbie who took the list at facevalue, I'd be pretty pissed that no one warned me before sending $1000 off into the ether lol editt also worth noting Motohara, will also completely dress a 3rd party blade for a reasonable fee. Their work is pretty pretty nice and a tad more affordable than more traditional craftsman like roman urban.
Interesting choice of steel James Raw has made, anyone have any experience of this? I know the chinise offer springsteel and they have a good reputation for beeing tough beaters, but they are all through hardened. I've never seen differentially hardened springsteel before. he does well with that steel sbg-sword-forum.forums.net/thread/61698/james-raw-kissaki-daisho
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Post by AndiTheBarvarian on Jan 19, 2022 12:57:08 GMT
More or less 9260.
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Post by junesbanunes on Jan 19, 2022 14:54:37 GMT
Interesting choice of steel James Raw has made, anyone have any experience of this? I know the chinise offer springsteel and they have a good reputation for beeing tough beaters, but they are all through hardened. I've never seen differentially hardened springsteel before. he does well with that steel sbg-sword-forum.forums.net/thread/61698/james-raw-kissaki-daishoThanks, reading that thread James definitely seems like a viable option. At least if you value function higher than artistic metallurgy.
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Post by john2000 on Sept 2, 2023 19:26:32 GMT
What's the point of writing something like that without further information? Pavel was hospitalized with exhaustion, he seems to have completely shut himself away to catch up with orders, ne social media. he estimated 1 year but he is also not replying to emails and not giving updates to people waiting on orders. so the situation very fuzzy and a lot of unhappy people where exactly did you hear that and who from, as i have been talking with them and they are making blade starting in November and have 3 for sale right now.
I keep hearing people saying this with out ever backing it up with any actual information that is not hearsay. Oh someone told me this and that.
Its getting really annoying.
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Post by john2000 on Sept 2, 2023 19:28:20 GMT
I would remove Pavel Bolf from this list What's the point of writing something like that without further information? Know one ever has any more information regarding this "information" i have been looking for a year and found nothing and have talked with Pavel also.
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Post by john2000 on Sept 2, 2023 19:32:43 GMT
Pavel was hospitalized with exhaustion, he seems to have completely shut himself away to catch up with orders, ne social media. he estimated 1 year but he is also not replying to emails and not giving updates to people waiting on orders. so the situation very fuzzy and a lot of unhappy people First I've heard of that. I've admired his work for years and he's on my bucket list, so here's hoping he makes a full recovery and gets back to his craft, if at a more reasonable level. """Hello. The waiting period is about 24 months. 30 months if there is a health problem, a fire in the forge, etc. I am sending attached photos of the swords that are before completion. About 6 months to polish. The red koshirae is ready. But they are more exclusive designs. Not the base That's why the price is higher. The first is Rai Kunimitsu Mogotaro's koie blade, Tensho koshirae, a copy of the koshirae used by Oda Nobunaga. About 80 cm long blade, suguha hamon, itame hada. The price is 120,000 CZK 8550 AUD The second is Fukuoka Ichimonji, choji hamon. Tensho koshirae, kayragi same saya, grooves. Kogatana. red lacquer. Also about 81cm blade length. This is an exclusive sword and koshirae. The price is 160,000 czk 11,400 AUD The third sword is Kyomaro style, choji gunome, o kissaki, it is a massive heavy blade, about 74 cm long, tensho koshirae. Tsuba Akasaka. The price is 120,000 CZK. A katana blade, 76cm Gassan, ayasugi hada, suguha hamon MAY be released. There is no kit part for that one, so it can be in the base for 90,000 czk when finished. That would take about a year...I'll be working on it over the winter months. Or write what blade you want, style, school, hamon, length, curvature approximately. 7:- August 20 I'm away. I probably won't use the internet. I will be forging blades in September to November. If we know what to make and you send a deposit, the blade can be ready this year. Pavel. ---------- Původnà e-mail ---------- Komu: pavelbolf.katanakaji@seznam.cz <pavelbolf.katanakaji@seznam.cz> Datum: 21. 7. 2023 23:56:07 Předmět: Re: Pavel Bolf Katana kaji:
then updated late with this one """ I need the dimensions of the sword (blade length, bend. ). And for what purpose it will be used. Also type (school, hamon) if you prefer one. I need a deposit, 50%. I don't use Pay Pal, only bank transfer. If you have any photos of a sword you like, send them to me.. He will probably make the blade in 2-3 months. Then I'll send you photos. Pavel Bolf ---------- Původnà e-mail ---------- Od: Pavel Bolf Katana kaji <PavelBolf.katanakaji@seznam.cz> Komu: PavelBolf.katanakaji@seznam.cz <PavelBolf.katanakaji@seznam.cz> Datum: 11. 7. 2023 5:53:26 Předmět: Pavel Bolf Katana kaji: full kavana and kashirie
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Post by john2000 on Sept 2, 2023 19:36:08 GMT
It took me two years and quite a few emails to finally get a response from Pavel. He said it would be late 2022, or early 2023 at the earliest to get to me, and that would be just forging the blade, polish and Koshirae would be another year or so. We were emailing back and fourth about specifics, and he kinda just disappeared. Hoping he is in good health. Cheers he is back. """I need the dimensions of the sword (blade length, bend. ). And for what purpose it will be used. Also type (school, hamon) if you prefer one. I need a deposit, 50%. I don't use Pay Pal, only bank transfer. If you have any photos of a sword you like, send them to me.. He will probably make the blade in 2-3 months. Then I'll send you photos. Pavel Bolf ---------- Původnà e-mail ---------- Od: Pavel Bolf Katana kaji <PavelBolf.katanakaji@seznam.cz> Komu: PavelBolf.katanakaji@seznam.cz <PavelBolf.katanakaji@seznam.cz> Datum: 11. 7. 2023 5:53:26 Předmět: Pavel Bolf Katana kaji: full kavana and kashirie
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