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Post by rschuch on Dec 18, 2021 19:45:45 GMT
Well, I'm getting a collection together and I think I'm almost done (yes I can hear you laughing and snickering). I have one more coming, a Kingston Arms ATrim arming sword, and I also have a non-usable bore rifle from the 1800s, and I have a lot of blank wall space. What do you recommend as display options? I was considering getting a couple of gun racks and just be done with it, but I've seen them displayed vertically as well. Also could consider a gun cabinet to keep dust and humidity from being a bother, but I don't have lots of floor space, just the walls. Any suggestions are welcome, as well as pics so I can see what you're talking about. Attachments:
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Post by ThomasW on Dec 18, 2021 20:01:14 GMT
I've been thinking about how to display a changing/growing collection for some time now (I'm still not 100% sure what I'm going to decide on in the end). One option however is a picture/painting hanging system. As in a rail at the ceiling level with adaptable (transparent/ wall color) cables. That way the collection can change and you can move things both horizontally and vertically if needed. The weight per rail needs to be taken into account however .
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Post by ThomasW on Dec 18, 2021 20:05:36 GMT
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Post by randomnobody on Dec 18, 2021 20:40:22 GMT
That's an interesting system, but I'm not sure how I feel about it...
I have some of my swords on a metal shelf rack...thing...that I have some figures etc on. I think I have a photo of it somewhere? Anyway, I recently got my small assortment of antiques off the floor and on to an 8-sword wall rack I picked up for $30 online, and I'm pretty content with it. Not at all fancy, but does the job. I have it up with Command strips, if you're worried about putting holes in the wall.
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Post by rschuch on Dec 18, 2021 20:45:23 GMT
I do art shows and a lot of them use some sort of rail system. I'm not crazy about the look and they're kind of flimsy because the hanging chains/cords move. I 5h8nk I'd want something move solid. I may hang the two musicians swords separately in a crossed ⚔️ manner just using a few drywall hooks, but they're light. Everything else has some heft to it. Attachments:
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Post by rschuch on Dec 18, 2021 20:48:02 GMT
That's an interesting system, but I'm not sure how I feel about it... I have some of my swords on a metal shelf rack...thing...that I have some figures etc on. I think I have a photo of it somewhere? Anyway, I recently got my small assortment of antiques off the floor and on to an 8-sword wall rack I picked up for $30 online, and I'm pretty content with it. Not at all fancy, but does the job. I have it up with Command strips, if you're worried about putting holes in the wall. Not worried about holes. It's my condo. Got pics of your display? Part of my division is doing one big rack or two smaller ones.
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Post by pellius on Dec 18, 2021 21:17:56 GMT
If it were me, I’d probably cross the musicians vertically, hang the double-edge Euro’s individually by the cross guards vertically beside or without their scabbards, display the katana and saya horizontally blade-up on a traditional single stand on its own small shelf, and display the saber horizontally on the wall above or crossed with its scabbard.
That’s just me, though.
Edit The smaller blades I would display flat, either on the existing furniture or a shelf with or without other decorations, but not with the katana.
I’d probably put the rifle horizontally over the door.
Nice collection, and nice project to have!
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Post by rschuch on Dec 18, 2021 23:01:26 GMT
If it were me, I’d probably cross the musicians vertically, hang the double-edge Euro’s individually by the cross guards vertically beside or without their scabbards, display the katana and saya horizontally blade-up on a traditional single stand on its own small shelf, and display the saber horizontally on the wall above or crossed with its scabbard. That’s just me, though. Edit The smaller blades I would display flat, either on the existing furniture or a shelf with or without other decorations, but not with the katana. I’d probably put the rifle horizontally over the door. Nice collection, and nice project to have! Thanks! There's no Albions or anything of real worth in there, but I've always wanted some real weapons. I had a few wall hanging toys I could pretend were swords for many years. I'm a LotR fan (books, not movies) and was looking into some of the movie repos, but they were all the same as what I had, just crap pretend stuff, so I started doing some research and found out you could get something of quality you could use for the same price and here I am. I have a stand for the katana, so may just use that. I'll probably cross the musicians as suggested. If I display the medieval ones vertically, the scabbards will drop off, so I may use the gun rack for them. If I keep them in the scabbards, will they be more or less prone to rust? I had the musicians swords on my wall at one time and they eventually got a little dust and got a touch of rust underneath. I caught it early and Flitzed it off no problem and put some more oil on them, but Florida is humid. Leaving metal exposed can be an issue, but having it in contact with something moist can be bad too. I had a GEC folder I kept open in a leather sheath and it developed some pitting after a month or two, some I'm a little cautious now. Part of the reason I'm thinking glass enclosed wall cabinet.
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Post by pellius on Dec 19, 2021 3:20:05 GMT
You have a nice collection; very well worth displaying.
Florida is a humid place. I’m also a Floridian, and very thankful for air conditioning and dehumidifiers.
If you opt for a case, you may want to consider building in an active dehumidifier, or otherwise ensure air circulates thru it.
Conventional wisdom is to store swords outside of their leather scabbards unless they are wood-lined. Maybe even then.
I’ve had good results preventing rust with mineral oil.
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Post by rschuch on Dec 19, 2021 3:42:39 GMT
You have a nice collection; very well worth displaying. Florida is a humid place. I’m also a Floridian, and very thankful for air conditioning and dehumidifiers. If you opt for a case, you may want to consider building in an active dehumidifier, or otherwise ensure air circulates thru it. Conventional wisdom is to store swords outside of their leather scabbards unless they are wood-lined. Maybe even then. I’ve had good results preventing rust with mineral oil. A dehumidifier is a good idea. I actually have had in on my list of things to get. I'll get mineral oil. I've been using WD-40 or 2 in 1. The Kern Irish, Excalibur and the Ryujin have wooden scabbards. Only the Windlass has leather touching the blade, but then it also has that black coated blade, so that may not be an issue. I'm not sure what kind of scabbard the ATrim arming sword will have, but I'm assuming wood wrapped with leather. I'm probably most concerned about the musician swords, being authentic and already pitted.
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Post by Paul Muad’Dib on Dec 19, 2021 14:08:54 GMT
Definitely don’t use WD-40. It’s not a good protectant or lubricant. Evaporates too quickly. I use a Birchwood-Casey product called Barricade. Works great and I mean great. Have used it for years on my guns and swords. No rust ever. Comes in wet wipes or spray cans and small cans like lighter fluid. You can get it at gun stores, Walmart and Amazon of course. And I agree, don’t store in the leather sheath. Learned that the hard way, fortunately cheap knives. I keep all my katana and wakizashi stored in their saya and never had any problem.
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Post by rschuch on Dec 19, 2021 16:40:16 GMT
I use a Birchwood-Casey product called Barricade. Works great and I mean great. Have used it for years on my guns and swords. No rust ever. Comes in wet wipes or spray cans and small cans like lighter fluid. You can get it at gun stores, Walmart and Amazon of course. Just added it to my Walmart list! Thanks man!
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Post by Paul Muad’Dib on Dec 19, 2021 16:59:53 GMT
I use a Birchwood-Casey product called Barricade. Works great and I mean great. Have used it for years on my guns and swords. No rust ever. Comes in wet wipes or spray cans and small cans like lighter fluid. You can get it at gun stores, Walmart and Amazon of course. Just added it to my Walmart list! Thanks man! FINALLY, my first convert! Haha. Don’t think you’ll be disappointed. Good luck.
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Post by rschuch on Dec 19, 2021 22:46:44 GMT
Well, I ended up getting one of these for the 4 medieval swords and the Calvary sabre. I'll post a pic when I get it up on the wall Attachments:
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Post by Sir Thorfinn on Dec 20, 2021 0:03:00 GMT
If it were me...I'd use a hybrid. So anything basket-hilted/not-flat gets a rack spot like what you posted. The others I'd hang with magnets. There's a couple of posts giving data on this. I can say, I grew up in earth quake country, and am all about nothing on the wall that will become a missile... And my inner demons half approve magnets....only half...
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Post by rschuch on Dec 20, 2021 0:24:18 GMT
Magnets? Haven't seen or heard that before. Can you post a link? As I said I'm in Florida, so not a lot of earthquakes. I guess a hurricane could blow one off the wall and shish kabob me, but I'd be more worried about flooding.
I forgot the bore rifle, so the sabre will be hanging alone by it's scabbard rings.
Kinda concerned about the Tod Cutler dagger. The scabbard is leather. I just checked it and, while the blade is fine, where the sheath touched the hilt it was starting to rust. I sanded it off and oiled it down, but I guess I'll need to display it without the sheath now.
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Post by randomnobody on Dec 20, 2021 1:01:05 GMT
I'm lucky when it comes to rust, as it's never been an issue for me except for w few blades I just neglected to clean fast enough. Most notably a Jeff White knife I used once, just once, at a steak house. Wiped it with a napkin after use, put it away, and when I got home and took it out to wash it properly it had already oxidized. A few days ago I used a mini kukri to peel an orange and I swear I watched the thing turn brown as I did it.
I've not oiled anything in years, though, and have had no issues with rust apart from those mentioned. I have an old Gen2 Norman dagger, a Windlass "Viking dirk" and numerous other knives in plain leather sheaths that have never rusted.
Granted, I do run a window AC all year, because my part of central Virginia likes to be 70+F randomly throughout the "winter" months. Helps a lot to keep humidity and temperature down.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2021 10:17:18 GMT
I'm lucky when it comes to rust, as it's never been an issue for me except for w few blades I just neglected to clean fast enough. Most notably a Jeff White knife I used once, just once, at a steak house. Wiped it with a napkin after use, put it away, and when I got home and took it out to wash it properly it had already oxidized. A few days ago I used a mini kukri to peel an orange and I swear I watched the thing turn brown as I did it. I've not oiled anything in years, though, and have had no issues with rust apart from those mentioned. I have an old Gen2 Norman dagger, a Windlass "Viking dirk" and numerous other knives in plain leather sheaths that have never rusted. Granted, I do run a window AC all year, because my part of central Virginia likes to be 70+F randomly throughout the "winter" months. Helps a lot to keep humidity and temperature down. Yea same, I've went years not oiling anything because I don't mind surface rust either. I try to keep my stuff oiled, but I've neglected it a lot and never paid for it yet. Maybe I just live in a really dry place tho
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Post by rschuch on Dec 20, 2021 14:48:14 GMT
Florida is a swamp. I'm right on a big lake, right next to a natural spring, and there's little creeks that run along the walkways and paths that are essentially bridges because if you were to take a walk you'd be thigh deep in mud, and then the alligators will catch you more easily. When it rains, I have to walk through a 4" deep pond to get to my front door.
Different metals rust at different rates. I also collect pocket knives and GEC's blades, for whatever reason, get pepper marks like crazy. I've gotten rid of most of them and the ones I've kept I oil often. I keep the a/c at 76F, but as suggested above, I need to get a dehumidifier, especially since I'm investing in all this steel now. Last month the weather was beautiful. I don't think it went above 75F for an entire week and I had all the doors open while I was home and the a/c off. When a cold front comes through, the humidity goes down, as does my electric bill ($44 for Nov.!), but now we're back in the 80's.
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Post by randomnobody on Dec 20, 2021 15:07:21 GMT
I used to live around Fort Walton, and before that a short hop away in Biloxi. Hot and sometimes wet about sum up both.
Gotta stay away from that dewpoint.
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