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Post by Roscoe57 on Nov 6, 2021 20:47:08 GMT
Looking at the Huawei web site. Everything has a 26cm tsuka about 10 1/4 inches. Except for one at 26.6cm or almost 10.5 inches. I know years back they were making 11 inch. Like the Hand Forged Oil Quenched Nami Koshirae Hishi-Gami Niku Shinken Heavy Cutter with 26cm tsuka. I would think at least this one would have a longer tsuka.
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Post by randomnobody on Nov 6, 2021 22:18:03 GMT
Simply put, 10" is the average length required/recommended by most JSA schools, and seen in most antique Japanese swords. Only in recent years has anyone felt the need to go longer, and even then, as a person with a large body and not-small hands, I find 10" perfectly adequate and anything much longer to be too much.
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Post by zsg1313 on Nov 6, 2021 22:53:13 GMT
Simply put, 10" is the average length required/recommended by most JSA schools, and seen in most antique Japanese swords. Only in recent years has anyone felt the need to go longer, and even then, as a person with a large body and not-small hands, I find 10" perfectly adequate and anything much longer to be too much. There was a hugely informative post from Keith larman on SFI way back that I only spent a few minutes searching for before giving up. It would be a good read again if anyone knows where it was.
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Post by Robert in California on Nov 6, 2021 23:13:04 GMT
My Huawei's came with 10.5" tsukas. I however have found that for me, 11" is more comfortable. (big hands) RinC
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Post by soulfromheart on Nov 6, 2021 23:43:39 GMT
Simply put, 10" is the average length required/recommended by most JSA schools, and seen in most antique Japanese swords. Only in recent years has anyone felt the need to go longer, and even then, as a person with a large body and not-small hands, I find 10" perfectly adequate and anything much longer to be too much. There was a hugely informative post from Keith larman on SFI way back that I only spent a few minutes searching for before giving up. It would be a good read again if anyone knows where it was. Maybe these : www.swordforum.com/vb4/showthread.php?93818-Tsuka-length-questionwww.swordforum.com/vb4/showthread.php?8945-Longer-Tsuka
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Post by Roscoe57 on Nov 7, 2021 0:05:45 GMT
Excellent reading. Thanks for posting.
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Post by Roscoe57 on Nov 7, 2021 0:12:17 GMT
I started out with a Hanwei Raptor Katana, Shinogi Zukuri. 11 inch tsuka. I have smaller hands, the 11 inch just feels right to me. I have tried a 10 inch before, didn't care for it at all. I had a Huawei 9260 several years ago and it had a 10.5 inch tsuka of which was fine.
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Post by zsg1313 on Nov 7, 2021 12:00:32 GMT
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Post by jyamada on Nov 7, 2021 17:36:28 GMT
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Post by Roscoe57 on Nov 7, 2021 20:19:09 GMT
Guessing it depends on where they measure from. Nakago Length -26.5cm Tsuka Length - 26cm
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Post by randomnobody on Nov 7, 2021 22:03:24 GMT
"Nakago" starts at the machi. Usually an inch or so below that belongs to the habaki, then an another 1/4 inch or so for the tsuba, then the actual tsuka, which often leaves an inch or so of wood at the end.
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Post by MichaelRS on Nov 8, 2021 6:26:04 GMT
It's not the size, it's how you use it.
Oh. Tsukas? Okay, nevermind.
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Post by leed on Nov 10, 2021 0:29:34 GMT
Modern trend to lighter balance/weight. 10.75"+ really get's in the way while transporting. Does more leverage for power offset shorter handle speed? I dunno. Options.
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Post by Robert in California on Nov 10, 2021 3:49:48 GMT
Tsuka length is subjective. Us Westerners with bigger hands....need longer tsukas so our little finger is not gripping the kashira. Having a standard length tsuka for all, makes as much sense as shoes only coming in one shoe size. But admittedly, 10.5", the Huawei standard length will fit the vast majority of hands well enough.
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Post by Roscoe57 on Nov 10, 2021 15:32:32 GMT
Tsuka length is subjective. Us Westerners with bigger hands....need longer tsukas so our little finger is not gripping the kashira. Having a standard length tsuka for all, makes as much sense as shoes only coming in one shoe size. But admittedly, 10.5", the Huawei standard length will fit the vast majority of hands well enough. Very true. 10.5 is better than the one katana I bought from Sheng swords, advertised as 11 inches, but came as almost a 10 inches.
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Post by treeslicer on Nov 10, 2021 15:53:12 GMT
I'll note that some styles (e.g.: Taisha ryu) use more tsuka than others, due to hand placement.
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Post by tera on Nov 10, 2021 17:25:21 GMT
Tsuka length is subjective. Us Westerners with bigger hands....need longer tsukas so our little finger is not gripping the kashira. Having a standard length tsuka for all, makes as much sense as shoes only coming in one shoe size. But admittedly, 10.5", the Huawei standard length will fit the vast majority of hands well enough. Very true. 10.5 is better than the one katana I bought from Sheng swords, advertised as 11 inches, but came as almost a 10 inches. Magpul should make a tsuka with interchangeable sleeves and panels to adjust tsuka length for "tactical" katana. Somebody get on that
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Post by eastman on Nov 11, 2021 1:45:01 GMT
Very true. 10.5 is better than the one katana I bought from Sheng swords, advertised as 11 inches, but came as almost a 10 inches. Magpul should make a tsuka with interchangeable sleeves and panels to adjust tsuka length for "tactical" katana. Somebody get on that
tsuka wrapped in paracord with a glass-breaker in the koshira for the correct Tacti-Cool experience
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Post by shepherd214 on Nov 11, 2021 20:01:33 GMT
Simply put, 10" is the average length required/recommended by most JSA schools, and seen in most antique Japanese swords. Only in recent years has anyone felt the need to go longer, and even then, as a person with a large body and not-small hands, I find 10" perfectly adequate and anything much longer to be too much. That's not true at all, someone made a big thread on a forum one time showing all the evidence for longer tsuka. It's not a recent thing.
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Post by randomnobody on Nov 11, 2021 20:45:10 GMT
Simply put, 10" is the average length required/recommended by most JSA schools, and seen in most antique Japanese swords. Only in recent years has anyone felt the need to go longer, and even then, as a person with a large body and not-small hands, I find 10" perfectly adequate and anything much longer to be too much. That's not true at all, someone made a big thread on a forum one time showing all the evidence for longer tsuka. It's not a recent thing. I think we've already found and shared at least similar threads. Pretty sure I'd read that more than a few places, and there surely must be some trend at work, so it seemed logical. Obviously historic swords would feature an array of sizes, but I'm assuming the "standard issue" most modern replicas aim to mimic must have averaged 10-11".
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