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Post by salvatore on Sept 5, 2008 19:45:16 GMT
Hello,
I am in need of some Samegawa. I need some because I need better grip on my bokken, because I am going to be buying some Kote(Hand guards seen in kendo), and the grip on my bokken will be poor with these guards. My hand isn't as durable as it used to be, so I have to be careful, I would like to start performing katas again, so all help appreciated!
Sal
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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2008 20:07:18 GMT
if you cant find any thats affordable try going down yo your local fish market and see if they have any Shark Skin. Might even get it for free
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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2008 20:13:50 GMT
Please excuse me asking, but: why do you think kote and bokken don't do well together? According to my experience there is no problem with using bokken and kote. In Itto-Ryu Kata the Motodachi uses Kote and bokken. I personally have been using kote and bokken for years and years when doing suburi and some special kata.
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Post by salvatore on Sept 5, 2008 20:23:37 GMT
Please excuse me asking, but: why do you think kote and bokken don't do well together? According to my experience there is no problem with using bokken and kote. In Itto-Ryu Kata the Motodachi uses Kote and bokken. I personally have been using kote and bokken for years and years when doing suburi and some special kata. A friend of mine that practices Kendo and Iaido told me they have poor grip together. Is this not true, or does wearing kote and using bokken together just give you a degraded grip?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 6, 2008 11:27:47 GMT
According to my experience there is no problem. If your friend's experiences are different - okay, maybe.
My kote are custom made and fit perfectly. Maybe this can be quite an important facet of the problem.
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Post by Marc Ridgeway on Sept 6, 2008 12:37:20 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2008 1:18:12 GMT
Same is expensive. I consider it a waste for a simple practive Bokken.
Go to Walmart, buy some adhesive fabric tape. It'll probably be in the sporting goods, maybe even near the baseball bats. Hell, even simple electrical tape would be fine.
It's a Bokken. Properly applying Same would probably cost as much as the Bokken itself...
Besides, fabric tapes can be wrapped into a thicker bulk, improving the grip for your bad hand.
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Post by salvatore on Sept 7, 2008 7:52:06 GMT
Hmm...Adhesive tape, that never crossed my mind, great idea.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2008 12:34:40 GMT
another idea would be to go to a skate shop and pick up some grip tape they use on skateboards if you want something with a bit of git to it. just a thought
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Post by slav on Sept 7, 2008 15:31:36 GMT
Yep, skateboard grip tape would be perfect.
Are you planning on using kote as an actual target for bokken strikes, or just as precautionary protection?
Regular Kendo kote are NOT meant to be a striking point for bokken. As you can see in the photo posted by giraut, I presume you would need special kote for use in kenjutsu practice. You should also have lots of experience under a ranking sensei before jumping to this kind of training.
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Post by salvatore on Sept 7, 2008 20:16:46 GMT
Yep, skateboard grip tape would be perfect. Are you planning on using kote as an actual target for bokken strikes, or just as precautionary protection? Regular Kendo kote are NOT meant to be a striking point for bokken. As you can see in the photo posted by giraut, you would need special kote for use in kenjutsu practice. You should also have lots of experience under a ranking sensei before jumping to this kind of training. Special Kote, eh? Hmm...I've never heard of kote for use in Kenjutsu, as I've never seen practiconers use them before. They were meant as a precaution, as my sparring partners don't have the control that I do.
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Post by slav on Sept 7, 2008 20:42:56 GMT
I have never heard of kote for use in Kenjutsu either, but I was going by the photo posted by giraut and by my own common sense/experience with Kendo kote.
If you are going to be sparring with others, please 1.) register at a Kenjutsu dojo or 2.) use shinai, not bokken, until you have some real training under your belt.
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Post by salvatore on Sept 7, 2008 21:21:57 GMT
I have never heard of kote for use in Kenjutsu either, but I was going by the photo posted by giraut and by my own common sense/experience with Kendo kote. If you are going to be sparring with others, please 1.) register at a Kenjutsu dojo or 2.) use shinai, not bokken, until you have some real training under your belt. I was taught katas, not cutting techniques. I only study cutting techniques on my own, but I've been formally taught katas.
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Post by slav on Sept 8, 2008 4:30:59 GMT
So then, you want wrist-protection in case a kata goes wrong? What kata would you be practicing?
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Post by salvatore on Sept 10, 2008 23:34:22 GMT
So then, you want wrist-protection in case a kata goes wrong? What kata would you be practicing? Oh, sorry I didn't know that you replied, I would have responded earlier. Nihon kendo katas, and Toyama-ryu katas. Ippon Me, Nihon Me, Roppon Me, Nanahon Me(That one is difficult for me), etc. etc. etc. I could go on, but I really don't want to, I think I got the point across.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2008 14:43:36 GMT
Nihon Kendo kata does not need kote. And Toyama-ryu? You're talking of Toyama Ryu Batto Do, I guess?
I hope you're learning in a dojo. Your teacher will tell you waht you need. Please, do not (NOT) try to learn from books, websites or even youtube - this will lead to injuries.
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Post by salvatore on Sept 13, 2008 0:22:26 GMT
Nihon Kendo kata does not need kote. And Toyama-ryu? You're talking of Toyama Ryu Batto Do, I guess? I hope you're learning in a dojo. Your teacher will tell you waht you need. Please, do not (NOT) try to learn from books, websites or even youtube - this will lead to injuries. Yes, but again my friends do not have the control I do, so I may get hurt. I have been formally taught katas, and practiced long hours, it is OK, I can understand your concern, but it is quite alright.
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Post by slav on Sept 13, 2008 1:01:43 GMT
What katas, and by whom?
BTW, are you a kendoka? That's about the only reason to bother with Nihon Kendo Kata lol.
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Post by salvatore on Sept 13, 2008 7:10:56 GMT
What katas, and by whom? BTW, are you a kendoka? That's about the only reason to bother with Nihon Kendo Kata lol. I was thinking about transitioning into Kendo, but not yet. And I was taught by sempai.
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