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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2008 8:08:29 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2008 14:21:25 GMT
I think some of these swords are Windlass swords that Strongblade are retailing. For example, the "Icingdeath--The Sword of Drizzt" is not the licensed version, but the MRL Two Hand Falchion. Not that there is anything wrong with them selling Windlass products. I just wanted to point out that not all of Strongblade's "battle ready" swords are made by Strongblade.
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Post by code on Aug 27, 2008 15:30:25 GMT
I noticed this myself about a week ago, I'm tempted to try one despite the problems I had with the warspike. I believe that the only swords strongblade claims to make are the ones that start with SBA-
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2008 16:52:17 GMT
I believe that the only swords strongblade claims to make are the ones that start with SBA- Thanks, I did not know that. It is not apparent since this is not indicated in the product names on the page linked.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2008 21:02:05 GMT
Sorry, I should have specified. There are, indeed, a few Windlass and Hanwei swords on that page. As Code noted, I was referring to the the SBA-prefixed swords.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2008 12:00:42 GMT
Hmm, on their site when describing what tempering is they do actually make the distinction between it and hardening... points for that considering people recently seem to be making a mistake there. Are these swords actually hardened or just tempered?
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Post by code on Aug 28, 2008 15:03:14 GMT
Are these swords actually hardened or just tempered? If you know of a way to find out thats not destructive I'll check if they are or not
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Post by hotspur on Aug 28, 2008 16:59:04 GMT
In the broadest and hopefully the simplest terms, hardening occurs when the steel is heated to a high temperature and then cooled relatively quickly. When additional tempering processes are applied, it is to reduce the hardness a bit while adding ductility, thereby reducing brittleness. This is done after the quench/cooling and is basically holding the steel at a moderately raised temperature for a given amount of time.
A differentially hardened blade with no futher tempering process applied could still be considered to have a resultant temper of edge and body, thereby giving some credence to those that use the term diffrentially tempered when describing clay coated Japanese style blades that have been quenched only. It does add to the confusion a bit and lead to a lot of senseless bickering but often only by those that are overthinking it, or only have pieces of information.
One might also read of the process of a blade being only edge quenched. This would be only the cutting edge being exposed to the cooling medium.
There is also differential tempering when only certain portions of a blade are manipulated through heat after a through hardening.
There are steels that are termed air quench, oil quench and water quench steels. In the general overall sword market, one is going to be seeing mostly oil and water quenched steels. Quenching is the process of that first cooling from a relatively high temperature that actually hardens the steel. Temper is either the result of only that first step, or additional cycles as described above.
To sum up with a one line answer.
A tempered blade has been hardened first.
Cheers
Hotspur; I am not a metallurgist, smith or general student of metalwork but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2008 23:09:08 GMT
Thanks Hotspur for your input! I always find your posts very informative. I was wondering if the swords may have just been annealed (e.g. normalised) rather than hardened then tempered so thanks for clearing that up.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2008 15:18:20 GMT
Hi guys,
Roberto from Strongblade here. Just noticed this up here. Thanks for spreading the word on our new tempered swords. We'll be adding a couple more very soon, including our Osprey Viking Sword. We'd love to hear feedback on them if any of you purchase them. Feel free to email me directly if you want to review one and I can add a review discount to your order (only for swords that haven't been reviewed here yet, though).
Thanks again for keeping up with Strongblade!
Best regards,
Roberto Managing Partner Strongblade
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