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Post by hartwin on Feb 25, 2021 9:16:52 GMT
Hello!
Can anyone name any koryu schools who are still teaching armored battlefield techniques? What is your opinion on the authenticity of these techniques?
I would also very much appreciate any reading material recommendations on the subject. Thank you.
(P.S: I know that battlefield techniques doesn't necessarily only involve swords, but more likely daggers and pole-arms.)
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Post by Timo Nieminen on Feb 25, 2021 10:41:01 GMT
Here is some:
This begins with various weapons vs sword; for sword vs sword, see 5:00. The weapons techniques here look good, e.g., thrust aimed at armpit. The footwork isn't battlefield footwork; it's dojo footwork. Sliding footwork like this doesn't work very well in, e.g., knee-deep grass.
More from the same school:
This odachi technique looks like armoured fighting practiced without armour:
and there is some armoured sojutsu in this clip, too.
More armoured sojutsu:
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Post by RufusScorpius on Feb 25, 2021 12:29:17 GMT
Timo gave the best answer. Truth is that you probably won't have a chance of finding a school that teaches it near you. I would love to learn, but I have more schools that teach light sabers than kenjutsu or kendo. Not even exaggerating that.
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Post by sooter76 on Mar 25, 2021 4:03:07 GMT
I have more schools that teach light sabers than kenjutsu or kendo. Not even exaggerating that. That makes me want to cry...
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Post by alexeireyes on Apr 30, 2021 16:47:13 GMT
I'm not sure if it's Koryu but the Bujinkan teaches tachi techniques that I also practice. You may want to check out Koi Martial Arts video lessons:
1. Tachi Waza
2. Kukishin Biken Jutsu
I hope this helps. I find the techniques very useful in my personal practice where I use shinken once I'm confident I've mastered the lesson.
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Post by Adventurer'sBlade on Apr 30, 2021 23:15:33 GMT
I have more schools that teach light sabers than kenjutsu or kendo. Not even exaggerating that. That makes me want to cry... To be fair, you're as likely to get into a lightsaber duel as an armored samurai duel in this century.
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Post by Lord Newport on May 1, 2021 4:06:22 GMT
Most students seem to have difficulty buying the equipment needed for traditional non armored JSA. How many students is a school going to attract when they have to buy full traditional armor as well?
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Post by chrisparker on Jun 11, 2021 11:58:21 GMT
Koryu with katchu-kenjutsu: Tenshinsho Den Katori Shinto Ryu Yagyu Shingan Ryu Yagyu Shinage Ryu (as Honden waza) Maniwa Nen-ryu Kashima Shinto Ryu Kashima Shinden Jikishinkage Ryu Tatsumi Ryu Araki Ryu Sosuishi Ryu Enshin Ryu Shojitsu Kenrikata Ichi Ryu and a number of others.
Few actually train in armour (it does happen, but it's not a common occurrence, really), however it is retained in their teachings. In terms of reading material, I don't know of many that overtly cover the katchu bujutsu aspects... the Koryu Books edition of Katori Shinto Ryu addresses "defensive weaponry" by giving an overview of armour itself, but that's about as much as you'll commonly find addressing it. We tend to keep such lessons for the students "in the room", so to speak. What I'd recommend would be looking into armour itself... in English, one of the best books for that is "Arms and Armour of the Samurai" by Bottomley and Hopson.
I hope this helps.
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