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Post by pt1093 on Feb 13, 2021 15:00:01 GMT
I am still looking through the documentation, but I thought I might try here to see if anyone else has delved into rules / laws regarding protected species.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2021 15:53:02 GMT
It depends. Simple searches show lots are trafficked for hobbyists. Sea turtles appear to be universally protected.
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Post by Lord Newport on Feb 13, 2021 19:06:30 GMT
I am still looking through the documentation, but I thought I might try here to see if anyone else has delved into rules / laws regarding protected species. I would not buy one on principle and I hope its illegal!
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Post by pgandy on Feb 13, 2021 20:49:13 GMT
I fail to see the point. I can't imagine any advantage. At one time the Japanese used a turtle shell for shield. I know of no culture that used such a shell for a sword grip. But I ask you not to do anything that will encourage endangering an endangered species more.
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Post by tdiamante on Feb 14, 2021 23:31:30 GMT
I fail to see the point. I can't imagine any advantage. At one time the Japanese used a turtle shell for shield. I know of no culture that used such a shell for a sword grip. I've seen some Korean(Joseon era) swords that use turtle shell grips. I have no knowledge of pros or cons. I assume it was largely for the unique appearance.
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Post by Lord Newport on Feb 15, 2021 0:20:15 GMT
I fail to see the point. I can't imagine any advantage. At one time the Japanese used a turtle shell for shield. I know of no culture that used such a shell for a sword grip. I've seen some Korean(Joseon era) swords that use turtle shell grips. I have no knowledge of pros or cons. I assume it was largely for the unique appearance. If sea turtle shell, it's just a by-product of a cultural taste for endangered species... the more endangered the better...
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Post by Foolonthehill16807 on Feb 15, 2021 1:32:11 GMT
Speaking from the string instrument world: there are plenty of antique violin bows with turtle shell and ivory components. They can be bought and sold within the country (US) but you can't travel with them or they'll be confiscated and often destroyed by customs.
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Post by pgandy on Feb 15, 2021 14:00:18 GMT
I fail to see the point. I can't imagine any advantage. At one time the Japanese used a turtle shell for shield. I know of no culture that used such a shell for a sword grip. I've seen some Korean(Joseon era) swords that use turtle shell grips. I have no knowledge of pros or cons. I assume it was largely for the unique appearance. Now you've gotten me interested in Korean history. I doubt if I'll find anything about turtle grips but I like history. I ask you not to do anything that will encourage endangering an endangered species further.
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Post by tdiamante on Feb 16, 2021 1:43:44 GMT
pgandy I agree, it is certainly not worth hurting an endangered species for a cool looking sword grip. There are several different burl woods that would give similar patterns. The South Korean series Mr. Sunshine(set around the Japanese invasion in 1910) on Netflix was my introduction to Korean history. I am obviously no expert but I do have some interest in it now. Lots of intertwining with Japan as it relates to swords and military technology.
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Post by pgandy on Feb 16, 2021 12:50:54 GMT
pgandy I agree, it is certainly not worth hurting an endangered species for a cool looking sword grip. There are several different burl woods that would give similar patterns. The South Korean series Mr. Sunshine(set around the Japanese invasion in 1910) on Netflix was my introduction to Korean history. I am obviously no expert but I do have some interest in it now. Lots of intertwining with Japan as it relates to swords and military technology. There are many materials suitable for a grip. Wood is amongst my favourite. I love the beauty and feel especially when it’s oil finished and that is not restricted to sword grips. While not a student of Korean history specifically I’ve seen the entwine of oriental culture. Good luck on your endeavour to find a suitable grip.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2021 6:13:26 GMT
I am not sure that I would want any turtle shell myself. Even a shell from a turtle that is not protected. I am sure that some turtle species are still legal to hunt. I prefer wood wrapped with leathre or a good fabric.
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Post by Croccifixio on Mar 12, 2021 6:34:04 GMT
I am still looking through the documentation, but I thought I might try here to see if anyone else has delved into rules / laws regarding protected species. Most countries around the world prohibit the buying, selling or importing any sea turtle products through national laws. I do have an antique swords with turtle shell decor on the scabbard, but this was bought locally and was an antique (allowed purchase under our laws).
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Post by jerrykong on Mar 25, 2021 19:16:29 GMT
as long as supplying demands, it'll be possible to buy some
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Post by Lord Newport on Mar 26, 2021 1:03:35 GMT
as long as supplying demands, it'll be possible to buy some We know only too well the chinese demand for rare and endangered species for food and traditional medicines. That demand is decimating the native species of Africa...
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