|
Post by Lancelot Chan on Jan 29, 2021 9:42:31 GMT
Test cutting upper arm target with loose clothes covered, which increased the difficulty approximately 30%.
|
|
|
Post by Lancelot Chan on Jan 29, 2021 12:24:20 GMT
Student trying it out.
|
|
|
Post by RufusScorpius on Jan 29, 2021 12:43:51 GMT
Clothing certainly changes the dynamics of the cut. Forum member Markus313 has a cloth wrapped target that he uses. It's a wood dowel rod wrapped with about 2 inches (5cm) of denim cloth. It's held by one person and struck by another. This gives it a bit of flexibility that a fixed target doesn't offer. Many have tried and failed to cut it. I had excellent results on his target using short, percussive hits (cut it all the way to the "bone")
I've long said that in a real fight, a through cut is great, but not the norm. Usually a hit will result from a short cut or thrust, and that's good enough on a real person. You can't rely on just one hit to end the fight. If it happens that way, that's great, but it's the exception to the rule. My tactic is to cripple the opponent, then administer a kill stroke.
You should do some cuts against armor, just to show how good armor actually is against a sword.
|
|
|
Post by Lancelot Chan on Jan 29, 2021 12:52:59 GMT
Clothing certainly changes the dynamics of the cut. Forum member Markus313 has a cloth wrapped target that he uses. It's a wood dowel rod wrapped with about 2 inches (5cm) of denim cloth. It's held by one person and struck by another. This gives it a bit of flexibility that a fixed target doesn't offer. Many have tried and failed to cut it. I had excellent results on his target using short, percussive hits (cut it all the way to the "bone") I've long said that in a real fight, a through cut is great, but not the norm. Usually a hit will result from a short cut or thrust, and that's good enough on a real person. You can't rely on just one hit to end the fight. If it happens that way, that's great, but it's the exception to the rule. My tactic is to cripple the opponent, then administer a kill stroke. You should do some cuts against armor, just to show how good armor actually is against a sword. Actually I did cut armor but didn't post much. :) They're of course almost always the winner. Well, here's one I cut a cold steel training buckler just testing it out on request by the owner.
|
|
|
Post by RufusScorpius on Jan 29, 2021 12:59:46 GMT
I'm gonna say it again: you got the coolest job in the world!
|
|
|
Post by Lancelot Chan on Jan 29, 2021 13:14:24 GMT
I'm gonna say it again: you got the coolest job in the world! hahhaha with people buying armor pieces and let me cut them to test out, yeah can't deny that.
|
|
pgandy
Moderator
Senior Forumite
Posts: 10,296
|
Post by pgandy on Jan 29, 2021 16:20:27 GMT
Actually I did cut armor but didn't post much. :) They're of course almost always the winner. Well, here's one I cut a cold steel training buckler just testing it out on request by the owner. The buckler demo was interesting and is in all likelihood why CS states not for steel weapons or some fact similar to that. But your test is not realistic due to the fact the pallet acted as a anvil and in life the person’s hand/arm supporting the buckler would have some give. I know, it's difficult to find a willing test partner, at least it is on my end.
|
|
|
Post by Lancelot Chan on Jan 29, 2021 16:48:08 GMT
Actually I did cut armor but didn't post much. :) They're of course almost always the winner. Well, here's one I cut a cold steel training buckler just testing it out on request by the owner. The buckler demo was interesting and is in all likelihood why CS states not for steel weapons or some fact similar to that. But your test is not realistic due to the fact the pallet acted as a anvil and in life the person’s hand/arm supporting the buckler would have some give. I know, it's difficult to find a willing test partner, at least it is on my end. In fact after the test I told the owner that it is very likely to be able to fend off some sword strikes, given the "unrealistic" condition where it was cut and broke. I told the owner exactly that a person holding it will have some give and not getting hit that squarely at the rim of the buckler. So it would work to give some protection against sharp swords. Plus not everyone strikes like I did, and not everyone has lancelot-sharp. He asked me to test this to see if he could provide this to his friends as protection. It was just after an open group assault in 2019 that spurred his interest. So my assessment of a gear, doesn't just come directly from my test result, but also in "realistic" situation where things would be different. Like the assaulting weapon would be way weaker than the sword I used, the person not as skillful, and the defender much more mobile. I put all of these into factors for the final verdict.
|
|
|
Post by Lancelot Chan on Jan 30, 2021 10:35:20 GMT
|
|
|
Post by Lancelot Chan on Jan 31, 2021 12:54:48 GMT
Some are unable to cut these targets.
|
|
pgandy
Moderator
Senior Forumite
Posts: 10,296
|
Post by pgandy on Jan 31, 2021 13:42:02 GMT
What make is that messer?
|
|
|
Post by Lancelot Chan on Jan 31, 2021 15:37:13 GMT
What make is that messer? The first student was using cold steel grosse messer, modified edge geometry by me. The second student was using Longship Maxwell No Remorse.
|
|