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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2021 22:13:14 GMT
Is there as "standard" knot or tie for securing a scabbard within a baldric? I faked a knot on my baldric. Seems secure, but there might be a better way.
Forgive me if this has already been answered.
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Post by pgandy on Jan 15, 2021 17:43:01 GMT
I simply slide my swords in. I have this baldric from a DoD www.museumreplicas.com/right-handed-european-baldric-black I marked where I wanted the lower stitch and a shoemaker stitched by hand. Not entirely trusting the stitching I added rivets to both ends. I learned simple stitching like this from the shoemaker can do it now. As for the upper, I made the holes and laced with a black shoe string so that it has some adjustment, which I’ve never used. Shown is with a replica M1813 Rose NCO Sword with its simple stud button. So far it has accommodated whatever I’ve put in it, even a rapier with no stud. Not feeling secure about that I have since made a lip using friction tape around the rapier sheath’s mouth to give the baldric something better to hang on to. Looking at the photo I think that I'll cut off that triangular section of leather beyond the lower stitching. That should improve the appearance.
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Post by marcofthecovenant on Jan 15, 2021 18:11:39 GMT
I think pgandy is right. Fitting the Baldric to the scabbard. If there is more friction between the scabbard and the baldric than between the blade and the scabbard it should work. Pgandy added stitching and a rivet, I added rivets instead of stitching, and a strap at the bottom.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2021 19:00:58 GMT
Here's the way I threaded/stitched mine. The leather thongs are laced through the holes and tied into a simple knot. I want the ability to easily swap other swords & scabbards.
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Post by pgandy on Jan 15, 2021 19:30:21 GMT
Getting back to your OP question, I don’t think there is an official knot. The people that used the system were rag-tag civilians with no regs. I know, militaries used baldrics as well, but these are civilian models. Use whatever works for you.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2021 21:35:27 GMT
OK. Well if anyone hears of a "correct way" to thread those laces, let me know.
I'll probably use this one when I attend the highland games. Scottish clans used baldrics, if I understand right. And that makes sense to me now, now that I've had a chance to wear both and compare. Baldrics feel more comfortable, don't get in the way as much. I prefer a baldric.
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Post by pgandy on Jan 15, 2021 23:58:14 GMT
I'll probably use this one when I attend the highland games. Scottish clans used baldrics, if I understand right. And that makes sense to me now, now that I've had a chance to wear both and compare. Baldrics feel more comfortable, don't get in the way as much. I prefer a baldric.You and I both. And I'll add one more, a baldric is quicker to get rid of than sword stuck in frog or belt. I say sword but the scabbard is the issue. I wouldn't want a scabbard slapping around my legs, not to mention the trip hazard if I get into a tight. Enjoy the Highland games.
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Post by AndiTheBarvarian on Jan 16, 2021 3:39:11 GMT
Yup!
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Post by Dave Kelly on Jan 16, 2021 18:44:44 GMT
I simply slide my swords in. I have this baldric from a DoD www.museumreplicas.com/right-handed-european-baldric-black I marked where I wanted the lower stitch and a shoemaker stitched by hand. Not entirely trusting the stitching I added rivets to both ends. I learned simple stitching like this from the shoemaker can do it now. As for the upper, I made the holes and laced with a black shoe string so that it has some adjustment, which I’ve never used. Shown is with a replica M1813 Rose NCO Sword with its simple stud button. So far it has accommodated whatever I’ve put in it, even a rapier with no stud. Not feeling secure about that I have since made a lip using friction tape around the rapier sheath’s mouth to give the baldric something better to hang on to. Looking at the first pic, you have a scabbard throat with a button. The baldric for this style has a punch hole. Mounting the scabbard you align the button and hole, and press the button thru. You can see examples if you google "baldric". Don't have one in my collection. All my baldrics are for rapiers.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2021 19:40:56 GMT
Is there a reason for that? "All my baldrics are for rapiers"
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Post by pgandy on Jan 16, 2021 20:10:03 GMT
Looking at the first pic, you have a scabbard throat with a button. The baldric for this style has a punch hole. Mounting the scabbard you align the button and hole, and press the button thru. The reason there is no stud hole is I’ve been too lazy to make one. The baldric is not exclusive for this sword. It serves more as a GP device, best explained by being of the school of “if it works don’t fix it”. I do have holes or a slot in my frogs depending and sometimes it’s a hazel to get the stud out of the hole.
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