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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2008 0:34:14 GMT
Yup, finally breaking down and getting a gas forge. Going to be getting the NC tool knifemaker's model, 2 burners. Got a line on a used one, and a price for a new one from the local blacksmith supply. Should know price of the used one in the next few days, then should have either one within the next week or two. www.shop.nctoolco.com/product.sc?categoryId=119&productId=1162
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2008 23:07:17 GMT
Put in the order today, should have it by Thursday!
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Post by Matt993f.o.d on Aug 26, 2008 18:07:52 GMT
Your coal forge hasnt seen any use since you did those last hammerheads, has it?
Have you got a new shop yet, or is the gas forge something you can use at home?
Or do you just fancy some variety? ;D
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2008 22:48:34 GMT
The coal forge is too big to setup here at my house, and the rivet forge I have is broken and the brake drum forge I made is too small. Gas forges are nice in that you can set them on any table or work bench, plug into you tank light and go, no chimney (at most an open window or door and a fan to vent the CO), when you are done at the end of the day turn off the gas and go inside. No burning ember worries, no smoke, no bashing a hole through the wall or ceiling for a chimney, no hacking cough, no black boogers (which i'll actually miss, kind of, in a weird way hehe, nothing like sneezing crude oil), no dust, clinkers, no more fire tending(other than turning a dial). I am in no way giving up coal but just going to use gas for awhile, mainly for HT work but we'll see how well it works for forging.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2008 11:24:14 GMT
Oh yeah, expect a "Tool Reveiws" section in the tools and tool making forum, with a couple reviews on some of the stuff I have, and I welcome tool reviews from others.
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Post by Dan Davis on Aug 27, 2008 12:24:16 GMT
Sam, IF you haven't already bought the forge look here: www.diamondbackironworks.com/page/page/2754775.htm , Dennis Meyers makes these. They're a lot cheaper than NC or Mankel and work better to boot. edit: Sorry; I just caught the post where you ordered already. Never mind.
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Post by Matt993f.o.d on Aug 27, 2008 16:05:41 GMT
A gas forge would be a lot more practical and safer. I have heard people say/write "once you use a gas forge you never go back to coal", but then again I have also heard people say "once you use a coal fire you'll never go back to gas". Strange, eh? Guess they each have their advantages. It depends what you like best yourself.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2008 16:34:27 GMT
Dan I have seen those forges, I do not like the burner design with the huge bell on the end, reminds me too much of the forgemaster forges which are WAY too oxydising for my taste. Plus the fact the burners are oriented directly vertical over the chamber without even a bend so the hot gasses after you are done forging flow right up and out through the burners, and the short squat chamber, just not my preference is all. They look great for ironwork though.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2008 17:22:21 GMT
how long do u think it would take to get to welding temps in these forges?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2008 19:19:26 GMT
I'll let you know, it came today a day early! Picking it up after work.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2008 1:03:50 GMT
IT FRIKKIN ROCKS. The gas forge came a day early, picked it up today!!!!! WOOOO! The guy at the local blacksmith supply, (Montague Blacksmith Supply, if you are ever in the tri state area, cool place to stop and shop a bit) Tom the owner and operator ordered it for me. He also kindly offered at no extra cost(on top of a discount on the forge itself too) to help me build it, as he has built MANY MANY that have gone through his store. I happily (and most releived) accepted as I do not know enough about gas lines and stuff like that to have done it safely. As per his advice as well I checked all the joints and lines with soapy water for leaks (there were none), and lit it up. What a joy! get's right up to temperature real quick, no real hot spots either! Heats up a sword length bar of steel nice and evenly no problem drawing it back and forth through the forge, pretty quick too, I look forward very much so to getting to know her more, and do some HT on some of these swords I have had sitting for awhile now ht'd and DONE, and this forge is perfect for just that. Also made my traditional test hook, the first type of basic teaching hook I learned to do during my Apprenticeship, teaches all the basic artistic forging steps, twisting, tapering, scrolling, forming a shoulder and hot punching and drifting. The hook took about as long in the gas forge as it did with my coal forge, both the rivet forge and the big forge I built as well as the brake drum forge. When I empty the tank and have it refilled I will start an hours-PSI log, to figure out how much gas it will use and compare costs of use. An awesome tool, I take back all the nasty things I ever said about gas forges! Here is pictures (sorry they were taken in the dark). Oh yeah, also normalised two seaxes/seax (?) and the cutlass. Among HT of a few swords, a 1095 Daisho is on the list as the next main project.
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Post by Dan Davis on Aug 30, 2008 12:31:11 GMT
Dan I have seen those forges, I do not like the burner design with the huge bell on the end, reminds me too much of the forgemaster forges which are WAY too oxydising for my taste. Plus the fact the burners are oriented directly vertical over the chamber without even a bend so the hot gasses after you are done forging flow right up and out through the burners, and the short squat chamber, just not my preference is all. They look great for ironwork though. I don't disagree about forgedisaster, but I have never had any similar issues with the Diamondback forges. I don't see how gasses can possibly flow back through the burners unless you completely stifle the outlet ports; it's a matter of pressure deficit. On the forgedisaster forges it blows back out around the bell but that's due to poor design. Also, the bend in the NC forges is above the chamber. The burn flows straight down into the forge floor. The chambers are also a LOT bigger than the chambers on my NC forge (collecting dust).
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2008 22:20:58 GMT
any updates with this thing yet? how long does it take to heat something up to welding temps? how much does it cost to run? any down sides u have found???
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