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Post by fencer1221 on Dec 2, 2020 14:14:39 GMT
Looking for a Ming/Qing style jian (no Han jian) around 800g with a blade length of around 80cm and a POB of +-10cm, preferably 1 handed grip and not too expensive, I like the Sinosword one but it's a little heavier than i would like (980g).
the TFW jian would fit the specs, but I'd prefer something more traditional looking, though i'll likely get that one if there is no other option with my preferred specs.
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Post by marcofthecovenant on Dec 2, 2020 14:44:04 GMT
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Post by fencer1221 on Dec 2, 2020 15:37:59 GMT
a little heavier than i would like but it looks amazing  |
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Post by marcofthecovenant on Dec 2, 2020 17:34:07 GMT
it's only 610 grams without the scabbard!
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Post by Zen_Hydra on Dec 2, 2020 17:45:43 GMT
I would very much recommend that you take a look at the other jian models being offered by LK Chen. I own a Striking Eagle Chu jian (and Heavenly Horse Han dao), and just recently ordered a Magnificent Chu jian as well. There Han jian are not the typical representations of Han jian you see coming out of China.
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Post by fencer1221 on Dec 2, 2020 18:00:29 GMT
it's only 610 grams without the scabbard! the blade is, but together with the hilt it is 1000g |
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Post by Jayhawk on Dec 2, 2020 21:11:52 GMT
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Post by Timo Nieminen on Dec 3, 2020 3:07:08 GMT
Not much choice that combines (a) not too expensive, (b) 80cm, and (c) 800g. Most of the "proper" Ming/Qing jian of that length will be heavier, and the lightweight forms ones will be lighter. Quite a few choices at about 900-950g, like the Hanwei cutting jian, and the Cold Steel gim. The Hanwei has a fairly long grip, and the Cold Steel is ugly IMO (but historically ugly); both are well-balanced. There are some more expensive swords by Dynasty Forge and Huanuo which should also be good, but they're of similar weight.
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Post by fencer1221 on Dec 3, 2020 7:28:09 GMT
hmm maybe i'll have to get the TFW jian, it looks sort of non-authentic though
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Post by wlewisiii on Dec 5, 2020 19:34:56 GMT
Honestly, if you're looking at the TFW one and have accepted the idea of the older design, then I'd seriously suggest the Flying Phoenix Jian from LK Chen:  From the web site lkchensword.com/flying-phoenixBlade only weight: 610 g (1 lb. 6.5 oz) Sword only weight: approx. 795 g (1 lb. 12 oz) Blade length: 86 cm (34"), Handle length: 20 cm (7.8"), Total length: 106 cm (41.8"), Slightly pronounced tapering Width at hand guard: 32 mm, Width at tip: 15 mm Thickness: 7.2 mm - 2.5 mm at the tip POB: approx.13 cm (5.1") from hand guard Blade Profile: diamond 4 surfaces Superior heat treatment: Hardness 55-58 HRC. Blade rebounds to true after 80-90 degree bending, Cut bamboo with ease. Hand polish to smooth soft shine and sword sharp edge." This is the Jian that I have and I can say that it is a real weapon, not some floppy lightweight toy. It's an excellent cutter and as fine a bit of the swordsmith's art as I've seen anywhere near it's price. Here are a couple of youtube reviews: I dearly love mine and consider it an exquisite deal at it's price - the only blade I like more is my LK Chen "Frontier Tang Dao"  |
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Post by marcofthecovenant on Dec 7, 2020 1:14:03 GMT
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Post by fencer1221 on Dec 7, 2020 10:04:42 GMT
Honestly, if you're looking at the TFW one and have accepted the idea of the older design, then I'd seriously suggest the Flying Phoenix Jian from LK Chen: From the web site lkchensword.com/flying-phoenixBlade only weight: 610 g (1 lb. 6.5 oz) Sword only weight: approx. 795 g (1 lb. 12 oz) Blade length: 86 cm (34"), Handle length: 20 cm (7.8"), Total length: 106 cm (41.8"), Slightly pronounced tapering Width at hand guard: 32 mm, Width at tip: 15 mm Thickness: 7.2 mm - 2.5 mm at the tip POB: approx.13 cm (5.1") from hand guard Blade Profile: diamond 4 surfaces Superior heat treatment: Hardness 55-58 HRC. Blade rebounds to true after 80-90 degree bending, Cut bamboo with ease. Hand polish to smooth soft shine and sword sharp edge." This is the Jian that I have and I can say that it is a real weapon, not some floppy lightweight toy. It's an excellent cutter and as fine a bit of the swordsmith's art as I've seen anywhere near it's price. Here are a couple of youtube reviews: I dearly love mine and consider it an exquisite deal at it's price - the only blade I like more is my LK Chen "Frontier Tang Dao" I'm not a fan of Han Jian, they just look bad to me, tastes differ. |
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Post by fencer1221 on Dec 7, 2020 10:05:28 GMT
that one is not a functional sword though right? it's just to practise forms I read |
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Post by Zen_Hydra on Dec 7, 2020 10:20:00 GMT
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Post by Turok on Dec 8, 2020 8:02:08 GMT
I recommend the Cold Steel gim! It's very sharp, well balanced, and can be wielded with one hand. The Hanwei cutting jian is similar to a hand and a half sword and it may be a little too long for some people.
The Cold Steel gim has a mirror polish blade and it gets stained very easily. The brass fittings also tends to oxide quickly.
Some people may think the fittings are ugly but I personally like the motif! In Chinese mythology, a carp that could swim upstream and bravely leap up over the Longmen waterfall would magically transform into a dragon! 鲤鱼跳龙门
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Post by Timo Nieminen on Dec 8, 2020 10:58:54 GMT
I'd avoid the Hanwei Practical for anything heavy-duty.
Yeah, I think the CS is ugly. Historically-ugly! As you say, well-balanced and handles very nicely.
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