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Post by pgandy on Jul 4, 2020 2:09:56 GMT
I received this from Scholagladiatoria in reference to my comment about his comment that Windlass blades would be better if they made them with a single bevel as opposed to the double bevel when he reviewed the Type XIV. I made the statement that Indian law forbade making a sword with a sharp edge but some vendors offered a sharpening service resulting in a secondary bevel. His reply:
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Windlass have a government permit to make, sell and export sharp swords. I discussed this matter with them directly :-)
I was aware of that as applied to their Battlecry line. I’ve no further information, has anyone else input on this? I think Matt is under a misunderstanding about Windlass main line swords.
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Post by paulmuaddib on Jul 4, 2020 2:57:40 GMT
I actually posted about this I think in the last year pgandy but I’ll have to look it up. I was at MRL/ACC showroom and met one of the windlass brothers. I asked why they could sell the battlecry line sharpened when Indian law forbids selling sharpened swords. He told me they had to apply for a special permit to do so. He also mentioned they made Cold Steel swords but not katana. Those swords are also sharpened. It’s late and I’ll look up that post tomorrow.
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Post by AndiTheBarvarian on Jul 4, 2020 5:32:05 GMT
Yeah, I remember it. Battlecry and Swords for CS and perhaps few other cases can be sharp due to a special permission. But not the main line.
My CS sabers have a secondary bevel. My CS 1860 is extremely similar to the Windlass 1840, in principle the same model. I always wonder if the made the CS foible a bit thinner because it handles better than I've heard it from the Windlass. Perhaps it's just the production bandwidth. And it still has a secondary bevel.
My CS Grosses Messer has a single bevel blade. It's probably not made by Windlass but by Huanuo I assume.
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Post by Dandelion on Jul 4, 2020 6:07:12 GMT
I think that would be the correct distribution, Andi. The CSGM blade is far too even and smooth to be mde by Windlass.
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Post by pgandy on Jul 4, 2020 15:45:14 GMT
Matt’s review concerned a Type XIV sword which is from what I call their main stream line. What I gathered from Matt’s response was that Windlass was authorized to sell their main stream line sharpened when I was under the impression that only certain group of swords such as their Battlecry line was allowed to do so. Paul I remember your post, no need to go to the trouble on my account, thanks.
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Post by MOK on Jul 4, 2020 17:04:25 GMT
Well, he's not wrong. Windlass does have permission to produce and export at least some swords sharp from the factory - and being built as a sharp blade from the ground up, with a single bevel, would make this one even better, too.
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Post by pgandy on Jul 4, 2020 17:29:44 GMT
Well, he's not wrong. Windlass does have permission to produce and export at least some swords sharp from the factory - and being built as a sharp blade from the ground up, with a single bevel, would make this one even better, too. "some swords" are the key words.
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Post by MOK on Jul 4, 2020 18:57:00 GMT
Well, he's not wrong. Windlass does have permission to produce and export at least some swords sharp from the factory - and being built as a sharp blade from the ground up, with a single bevel, would make this one even better, too. "some swords" are the key words. Sure, but I don't see how that actually contradicts or undermines anything Matt said, though. And of course this also raises the question, why only some swords and not all? Naturally, I assume there's probably some quirk of the Indian law that prohibits getting that exception for more than a few specific models, but I'd be keen to find out for real.
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Post by randomnobody on Jul 4, 2020 19:01:36 GMT
I think that's kinda the point?
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Post by MOK on Jul 4, 2020 19:03:54 GMT
I may be picking nits, here.
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Post by paulmuaddib on Jul 4, 2020 20:47:57 GMT
I’m purely guessing here but I think if the law was in effect when Windlass started or even after, what swords they made couldn’t be sharpened. But as MOK said there is probably some part of the law that allows for permits to sell new or contracted blades to be sharp but not the original line. And changing the old law might be hard to do. Who are we kidding, any law in any country is hard to change. Maybe if the lockdown ever lets up enough to let MRL open again I might be able to run into one of the Windlass brothers again and ask some more questions. Or I might die in the meantime. I mean I not getting any younger here. 😩
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