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Post by 293master293 on Aug 6, 2008 23:18:30 GMT
I have been reading around, and from what I understand, there is a problem with most of the first gen albions. What is it?
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Post by ShooterMike on Aug 7, 2008 0:30:42 GMT
I have been reading around, and from what I understand, there is a problem with most of the first gen albions. What is it? I have two first generation Albions, a Stamford Viking and a Crecy longsword. The steel and hilt fittings are about the same quality as the Next Gen models. But I would say they are not nearly as historically "correct" as the Next Gen models. And they don't handle as well either. But on the 2nd hand market, they usually sell for 40% less than a comparable Next Gen sword.
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Post by YlliwCir on Aug 7, 2008 1:28:20 GMT
I don't know if it's a "problem" but I think the tangs are made different? no? In any case I wouldn't hesitate to get one were I in a position to do so.
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Post by ShooterMike on Aug 7, 2008 1:45:47 GMT
Now that you bring it up Rick, I think the grips are compression-fitted between the guard and pommel on the first generation swords, like most other modern replicas. Whereas the Next Gen swords have the guard pressed onto the blade tang, then the pommel is hot peened, then the grip is constructed as two halves, as the last part of the process. That's the "historical" part.
If you look at museum relics and other original medieval swords, they are usually missing any trace of the wood and leather grip. But the guard and pommel are still tightly in place, like when they were new. It's been speculated that many of them may have gone through many different grips being worn out and replaced during their service life. That wouldn't be possible with most replicas built today.
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Post by YlliwCir on Aug 7, 2008 1:54:06 GMT
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Post by ShooterMike on Aug 7, 2008 2:04:35 GMT
Whoooo Boy. I hadn't seen that page before. Thanks for posting it. If I had, I wouldn't have bought the two 1st gen swords. But on that page they said they had upgraded to the current construction on the 1st gen swords in mid-2003. Now I just need to see when mine were made.
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Post by YlliwCir on Aug 7, 2008 2:17:58 GMT
Hell, Mike, I'm sure they're excellent swords either way. They're Albions. I just got the one but I'm blown away by the quality of it. Good to see them keep getting better tho.
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Post by 293master293 on Aug 7, 2008 2:41:19 GMT
Oh, I get it now. Thanks guys.
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