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Post by zabazagobo on Feb 7, 2020 1:12:12 GMT
LOL! YES! I expect that... so I'm disappointed lol
Now, to be realistic, whack it around a bit.
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Post by treeslicer on Feb 7, 2020 1:12:21 GMT
For $200 that's not bad at all. My only gripe is the shiny brass fittings. Yup. It isn't perfect. You can find examples to copy on Ohmura's site I linked to for doing your own rokusho or enameling. |
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Post by treeslicer on Feb 7, 2020 1:13:50 GMT
LOL! YES! I expect that... so I'm disappointed lol Now, to be realistic, whack it around a bit. Sure. Borrow some armor from Rufus or Christain and come a little closer.   |
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Post by zabazagobo on Feb 7, 2020 1:16:33 GMT
LOL! YES! I expect that... so I'm disappointed lol Now, to be realistic, whack it around a bit. Sure. Borrow some armor from Rufus or Christain and come a little closer. NO! Never! Just blades...  |
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Post by zabazagobo on Feb 7, 2020 1:18:45 GMT
Laughs being had, do please test on other materials. I've hit K120c Hanwei against t10 Huawei just to see what happens... I know you like "the real deal", so please hit this "gunto-mockery" around a bit to test it (disclaimer: I detest gunto and related history, so pardon my specific disdain for this build of sword...)
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Post by bradc on Feb 7, 2020 1:54:35 GMT
BTW, I forgot to add that any blocking (like an umbrella block) should be done with the mune, not the ha. Interestingly that is not a constant concept across styles. (I am not saying one is right or wrong) My style sometimes blocks with Ha, sometimes shinogi it depends on the situation. Usually a block is considered a last resort as a 2 handed cut is ideally not something you want to be in front of, so potential chipping of the edge is really the last thing on your mind. The first thing being not having a sword introduced to it... Destructive testing is wonderfully informative though when people do it with their stuff (not mine)  |
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Post by zabazagobo on Feb 7, 2020 2:07:33 GMT
If a sword cannot withstand impact testing with parrying along the ha...well, what good is it then? Functionally?
Cutting through soaked mats is not much of a test. In all honesty. And pool noodles...less so.
For T10 steel, from experience, I've had pleasant results with resilience. Does this "gunto replica" offer the same?
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Post by pellius on Feb 7, 2020 3:39:20 GMT
Thanks for a great review.
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Post by RaylonTheDemented on Feb 7, 2020 4:31:22 GMT
Nice review, thanks for taking the time to share with us.
The first katana I bought is a T10 Ryujin, blade is holding fine as far as cutting goes - I am assuming they are very similar blades with similar heat treatment. Hardest targets were wet newspaper with 5/8'' wood dowels, so none of the destructive tests zabazagobo like so much.
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Post by Lord Newport on Feb 7, 2020 16:56:16 GMT
Perfect for reenacting the Rape of Nanking or the Bataan death march...   (Full disclosure; I own an original purchased from the estate of the USMC vet who captured it on the battlefield) |
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Post by treeslicer on Feb 7, 2020 19:54:15 GMT
Perfect for reenacting the Rape of Nanking or the Bataan death march... (Full disclosure; I own an original purchased from the estate of the USMC vet who captured it on the battlefield)
I do hope that anyone who buys one of these because of my review will use it responsibly. Some nerves, particularly in the Far East, are still raw over exactly how Imperial Japan tried to expand its empire a few decades back.
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Post by Lord Newport on Feb 8, 2020 0:35:14 GMT
Perfect for reenacting the Rape of Nanking or the Bataan death march... (Full disclosure; I own an original purchased from the estate of the USMC vet who captured it on the battlefield)
I do hope that anyone who buys one of these because of my review will use it responsibly. Some nerves, particularly in the Far East, are still raw over exactly how Imperial Japan tried to expand its empire a few decades back.
Yeah, the Germans have the same problem. They have this cultural tendency to march into other peoples countries without being invited. |
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Post by bradc on Feb 8, 2020 1:57:02 GMT
I do hope that anyone who buys one of these because of my review will use it responsibly. Some nerves, particularly in the Far East, are still raw over exactly how Imperial Japan tried to expand its empire a few decades back.
Yeah, the Germans have the same problem. They have this cultural tendency to march into other peoples countries without being invited. But on topic. nice sword and very well written review. |
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Post by vanna on Feb 15, 2020 0:15:18 GMT
WOW Treeslicer you went above and beyond with that review. U do great work!!!
As for Ryujun Gunto they are a very good deal. I have bought two of them, and the only complaint I have with them Is I got the Olive drab colored sayas , and I wanted Black like pictured in the Ad. But I am very happy with them both.
B4 I bought Ryujin's gunto I paid $700USD for a forge direct gunto and was very dissatisfied with it The Ryujin was 500 dollars less and a better sword in my book
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Post by vanna on Feb 15, 2020 0:39:18 GMT
Ha, must've missed that. How's steel on steel? Steel on wood?
Y'know, the fun, tricky stuff. Combat stuff.
Not with a katana it's not. Katana are strictly people-disassembly tools. Anything else is a mixture of myth and blade abuse.
What little intentional parrying occurs in a Japanese swordfight is done by low angle deflection along the shinogi.
OK well here is my two cents ................ a katana will cut any steel like butter if the steel is heated to the optimum temperature. That might have to be like cherry red for some steels. Another important factor is the size of the steel |
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Post by treeslicer on Feb 15, 2020 1:02:19 GMT
Not with a katana it's not. Katana are strictly people-disassembly tools. Anything else is a mixture of myth and blade abuse.
What little intentional parrying occurs in a Japanese swordfight is done by low angle deflection along the shinogi.
OK well here is my two cents ................ a katana will cut any steel like butter if the steel is heated to the optimum temperature. That might have to be like cherry red for some steels. Another important factor is the size of the steel That would ruin the temper and destroy the sword. As far as cutting thin sheet steel, that has been a common test, but doesn't prove much of anything. |
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Post by Zen_Hydra on Feb 17, 2020 15:54:21 GMT
Not with a katana it's not. Katana are strictly people-disassembly tools. Anything else is a mixture of myth and blade abuse.
What little intentional parrying occurs in a Japanese swordfight is done by low angle deflection along the shinogi.
OK well here is my two cents ................ a katana will cut any steel like butter if the steel is heated to the optimum temperature. That might have to be like cherry red for some steels. Another important factor is the size of the steel ...no... |
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Post by AndiTheBarvarian on Feb 17, 2020 16:11:19 GMT
0,5 mm thick wire, red glowing hot? I guess a kat can cut through whatever steel it is. |
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Post by RufusScorpius on Feb 17, 2020 18:51:17 GMT
Especially a gunto. During the war the sword was known for cutting gun barrels in half and still maintaining a razor edge.
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Post by treeslicer on Feb 17, 2020 19:09:54 GMT
Especially a gunto. During the war the sword was known for cutting gun barrels in half and still maintaining a razor edge. Nakamura, in his well-known book on tameshigiri, had fun with that claim (which, if you dig into it, was Japanese propaganda at its most asinine). OTOH, in his dismissal of the story, he tells how to use a gunto to cut barbed wire obstacles. For those who have the translation retitled The Spirit of the Sword, note well, the translator of that edition falsely rendered it as "razor wire" (DON"T try that), and that's not his only mistranslation, because while the guy is good at rendering most MA jargon. as well as tangled colloquial Japanese, he seems to be light on both military science and specific JSA terminology. |
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