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Post by makov25 on Jan 31, 2020 21:40:36 GMT
Hello all, Can somebody show me good picture of this french officer sword M1822 model. I have this painting of a french officer dated 1848, and I am thinking to buy this type of sword for my collection. My main area of interest - battle paintings and portraits of officers with military decorations. I want to add some period time items that will resonate with paintings. Thank you in advance for your help.
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Luka
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Post by Luka on Feb 3, 2020 17:35:05 GMT
Google french M1822 light cavalry officer saber and you will find plenty pictures.
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Post by Uhlan on Feb 4, 2020 8:13:43 GMT
Maybe better to find out whether this gent is a Cavalry Officer first. The Officer may be Chasseur or Infantry. I don't think this is a Cavalry uniform. Google ,,French uniforms'' to check this out. I have this idea this is a Chasseur d'Afrique Officer. That landscape looks quite North African to me.
Cheers.
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Post by pellius on Feb 4, 2020 14:30:32 GMT
Helpful pro tip: If you want to keep your eyes and device cache free of images from the very edge of pornography, you may want to google “French MILITARY uniforms.”
I won’t tell you how I learned this little life lesson.
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Post by makov25 on Feb 4, 2020 22:54:48 GMT
The painting depicts French officer of Expeditionary force. Painting dated 1848.
Franco-Moroccan War
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Post by pellius on Feb 5, 2020 0:36:26 GMT
I’m not all that familiar with French military history, so I mostly lurk in the back reading these threads. I honestly thought you would hear from some folks with a lot more knowledge than I have. (You may yet, of course.) I know less than pretty much everyone here, but I volunteer when I can. I don’t know what forces comprised the Nineteenth Century French Expeditionary Force. You asked about the Fr. m1822. I only know of the two cavalry sabers having a model year 1822, though there’s an art’y model in there somewhere, too. You probably know much more than I do. Anyway, here’s a few pics of my m1822 LC, and group photos of my m1822 HC with my LC and my m1829 art’y. They are pics I have posted before on SBG. (I’m on my phone, from which photos are a pain to insert.) I don’t have pics of my HC by itself, yet. I’ll add a few links to SBG articles a little later. Cheers.
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Post by pellius on Feb 5, 2020 0:48:21 GMT
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Post by makov25 on Feb 6, 2020 0:28:24 GMT
Thank you pellius very much. This is what I was looking for.
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Post by pellius on Feb 6, 2020 1:35:11 GMT
Happy to help.
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Post by Dave Kelly on Feb 6, 2020 4:37:20 GMT
French Model 1822 had two basic types: A light cavalry sabre with officer and enlisted styles and a Cav du ligne, Heavy Cavalry sabre. Standard blade for the light was 36x1.25 inches. The heavy was 38.5x1.12 inches. Note the light has a 3 bar half basket and the Heavy has 4. These are well crafted sabers with a light handling character due to precision tapering of the blade. The first generation swords 1822-1850 are the best. Over time French handling acquired some Germanic percussive nose heaviness that slowed the handling a bit. The 1822 heavy never caught on. The Cuirassiers were married to their ancient pallasche swords. The sabre was dumped on the Dragoons. The blade of the heavy was in fact the same used by Napoleon's Imperial Guards heavy cavalry. I need to tranfer some hilt picks to to imgur. Photobucket says I have exhausted my bandwidth allocation. Do that tomorrow. There is a write up online for the Model by N Vasse oldswords.com/articles/FRENCH%20LIGHT%20CAVALRY%20SWORD%201822%20MODEL%20-%20A%20classical%20Taste.pdf
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Post by makov25 on Feb 7, 2020 1:08:14 GMT
Thank you Dave Kelly for pictures and information on this type of sword. I am very much appreciate your help.
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