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Post by AndiTheBarvarian on Jan 6, 2020 10:25:04 GMT
That's interesting, I didn't know yet there could be cold grog, here in Germany we know only hot grog. I'm in my no-alc new years start phase but I'll try it in a few weeks. For hot grog I don't like lemon juice in it but I use 2/3 rum and 1/3 bourbon.
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Post by christain on Jan 6, 2020 11:14:36 GMT
I was always under the impression that grog was just rum and water. I'm not a huge fan of rum, but I must admit---if you handed me a Captain Morgan and Coke right now...breakfast would be GOOD on a chilly morning.
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Post by pgandy on Jan 6, 2020 18:35:54 GMT
My grog formula is simple, water and rum. With Bacardí’s Carta Oro it’s 50/50 at room temperature. The ratio may vary a little according to the rum brand.
I can’t go Captain Morgan. I like rum and cloves, but not mixed. As for a grog; to me a grog is rum and water. However since the vocabulary has changed drastically since I came along I looked it up using Wikipedia that stated “In modern times, the term grog has had a variety of meanings in a number of different cultures”. And Merriam-Webster dictionary defined it as “especially: liquor (such as rum) cut with water and now often served hot with lemon juice and sugar sometimes added”. My Webster’s College Dictionary from the ‘50s states “rum and water”.
I question the video narrator’s history on grog’s. It was developed by a British Admire. The Brits were already carrying lime on ships to prevent scurvy. I hadn’t heard of the Brits mixing lime with their grogs but is very possible making the lime go down better with some sailors. I can eat them as is. I read Wikipedia’a origin and it’s about as understood it for those interested in more detail.
I should point out that rum in those days, like tequila, was not all that good. From what I understand it was pretty rut gut stuff. Maybe that’s where the cloves come in and is a carry over. It wasn’t until Bacardí came along in the late 1800s and worked on it in a barn full of bats (fruit bats?), hence the bat symbol, that it improved. In fact it won many awards. I don’t know the story on tequila.
What I saw in the video reminds me more of a Cuba Libre; rum, Coke, and lime. Drank many of those cold. The sugars in Coke substituted for the sugar he put in the glass. Now I’m curious as I love brown sugar and suspect that I’ll satisfy my curiosity before the day is done. I was warned that the Coke would kill me, and after many years my body said to forget the Coke. Afterwards I saw a few videos of people evaporating the water from Coke and showing the residue. That reinforced my decision although I still keep a couple in the refrig as medicine. If I become over heated and tired working in yard a cold Coke and ice cube with its caffeine and sugar will pick me up. It’s also good for an upset stomach.
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Post by AndiTheBarvarian on Jan 6, 2020 18:42:39 GMT
For a cold drink I put a few ice cubes into pure rum. But what we call grog in Germany is hot water, rum and brown sugar. It heats you up when you feel cold and somehow one is enough, not bad.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2020 19:48:53 GMT
A hot alcoholic beverage? I'm not sure I like the sounds of that one. But if I were cold, I bet I would feel different
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Post by pgandy on Jan 6, 2020 21:57:40 GMT
I drank much rum with just an ice cube. The ice melts equaling rum and water or a chilled grog. The only warm alcoholic beverage I’ve tried was sake, no more warm drinks. I prefer my drinks chilled or at ambient temperature. I tried the drink in the video and it’s not for me. The chilled drink caused condensation requiring a coaster. It’s more complex to mix requiring 5 ingredients, in addition 5 external items. Just thought of another item, a cutting board, adding to the clean up. My grog needs 2 ingredients plus 2 external items including a measuring device not counted above because he just eye-balled it. Faster to make and easier to clean up, less mess, less sugar introduced into my system. For those that haven't figured it out, I like to KISS. As for flavour, my grog.
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Post by howler on Jan 6, 2020 22:19:32 GMT
For warm alcoholic beverages I think Hot Buttered Rum, and they have a multitude of recipe's for that.
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