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Post by kk on Nov 29, 2019 10:29:16 GMT
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soullesssword
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Post by soullesssword on Dec 4, 2019 3:48:44 GMT
i feel like this and the other reviews on lk chen stuff has really impressed me
it is hard to find replica swords that are accurate to quality antique examples; to have that, at this prize range, is remarkable
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Post by Turok on Dec 28, 2019 9:10:14 GMT
Very impressive review!
Hey kk, do you have any plans on making a yanmaodao or a luiyedao?
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Post by kk on Dec 28, 2019 23:53:17 GMT
Hi;
Ming and Qing weapons were important cultural heritage and there are definitely plans to bring some of the archetypical swords such as Yan-Mao-Dao and Lui-Ye-Dao back to life.
Right now the plans are creating Dao following the development of Dao in history. Hopefully shortly that the pre- Tang dynasty Dao be completed and we can turn our attention to the
Ming and Qing weapons that represent the last flowering of the Chinese Cold Weapons.
We want to pick wisely and try to get our hands on real specimens as much as possible, following the lesson learn during the recreation of the Han Jian and Han Dao.
So much discovery and surprises were made when try to bring these ancient weapon back to life. For example the Infantry Han Dao has so many detail geometrical surprises
that only reveal themselves when we try to put the 3D puzzle together again.
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Post by Turok on Dec 30, 2019 6:04:33 GMT
Thanks, kk! I look forward to that! It's very difficult finding a good yanmaodao or luiyedao that is both historically accurate and affordable.
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Post by zabazagobo on Jan 19, 2020 23:02:52 GMT
Yet another impressive demonstration of these swords' performance. I was binge watching your youtube channel last night: great material. The Roaring Dragon in particular is a very interesting sword.
Any plans to introduce jian with the "fencing guard" detailed on your website? Something like that on a sword with the stats of the roaring dragon or the flying phoenix would make for a very interesting design that fills a niche in the market where options currently don't exist
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Post by kk on Jan 23, 2020 1:58:38 GMT
Thank you for your suggestions. The jians that have "fencing guard" are believed to be training and fencing swords. Back in the Han Dynasty, sword playing and fencing were popular sports, from royal court to any street corners. There were fencing schools and famous fencing teachers and there where fencing duals and competitions. Fencing swords, as compare to military swords, are often not very sharp (some are even just with a metal stick to stand in for the blade and these swords often have hand guards. Very likely the fencing participants are not armed with armor and shields and thus the fencing guards were important, than as it is today.
Roaring Dragon and Flying Phoenix are model after battle swords. Roaring Dragon as a double handed Chu Jian, were yield by warriors who wear the famous "Rhino Armor". That they were adequately protected from other blades and arrows. Flying Phoenix as a single handed battle sword were likely used with a shield. We know that because of existing murals of battle scenes that warriors often show to have a shield / gou-rang in one hand and an edge weapon on the other.
Given that there is already protection by the shield, there was less need to have hand guards for battle swords.
LK Chen also find out, after using both, that battle jian like Flying phoenix were design to be as fast and agile as possible. While the fencing Jian restrict the swordsmen from certain motions and techniques.
So clearly there was a conscious tradeoff the way these military jian and civilian fencing jian was build and used.
Having said that, the Pole Arm "Sha" which is really a sword on the end of a special design pole (more like a super extended sword handle) did have a very wide and robust guard.
As you can see here.
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Post by zabazagobo on Jan 23, 2020 21:40:40 GMT
Thank you for your suggestions. The jians that have "fencing guard" are believed to be training and fencing swords. Back in the Han Dynasty, sword playing and fencing were popular sports, from royal court to any street corners. There were fencing schools and famous fencing teachers and there where fencing duals and competitions. Fencing swords, as compare to military swords, are often not very sharp (some are even just with a metal stick to stand in for the blade and these swords often have hand guards. Very likely the fencing participants are not armed with armor and shields and thus the fencing guards were important, than as it is today. Roaring Dragon and Flying Phoenix are model after battle swords. Roaring Dragon as a double handed Chu Jian, were yield by warriors who wear the famous "Rhino Armor". That they were adequately protected from other blades and arrows. Flying Phoenix as a single handed battle sword were likely used with a shield. We know that because of existing murals of battle scenes that warriors often show to have a shield / gou-rang in one hand and an edge weapon on the other. Given that there is already protection by the shield, there was less need to have hand guards for battle swords. LK Chen also find out, after using both, that battle jian like Flying phoenix were design to be as fast and agile as possible. While the fencing Jian restrict the swordsmen from certain motions and techniques. So clearly there was a conscious tradeoff the way these military jian and civilian fencing jian was build and used. Having said that, the Pole Arm "Sha" which is really a sword on the end of a special design pole (more like a super extended sword handle) did have a very wide and robust guard. As you can see here. Very nice. This echoes a lot of my own frustrations with complex-hilt swords of European design: they are rather unaccommodating for certain types of movement that swords with less constraining hilt designs, such as jian or katana, benefit from. While I enjoy sideswords and rapier, they're just not as maneuverable and precise as jian are, from my experience.
The emphasis on speed when designing the swords here is sensible, given the battlefield dynamics involving armor (it is refreshing to see so much attention to historical detail with a new line of products, very impressive). How does this hold up for conscripts? I know that armor quality varied quite a bit, so if outfitted with swords (aside from the more likely projectiles and polearms) was there any further variation in hand-protection/guard for lower-ranking and less effectively equipped/armored infantry?
Also, thanks for sharing another excellent video demonstration. This sort of weapon looks to be a rather fun compromise between jian and qiang. I'll have to spend more time investigating sha, thanks for introducing me.
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Post by kk on Jan 23, 2020 22:14:36 GMT
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Post by kk on Jan 23, 2020 22:26:32 GMT
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Post by Weaponeer on Feb 1, 2020 15:23:58 GMT
Thank you for your suggestions. The jians that have "fencing guard" are believed to be training and fencing swords. Back in the Han Dynasty, sword playing and fencing were popular sports, from royal court to any street corners. There were fencing schools and famous fencing teachers and there where fencing duals and competitions. Fencing swords, as compare to military swords, are often not very sharp (some are even just with a metal stick to stand in for the blade and these swords often have hand guards. Very likely the fencing participants are not armed with armor and shields and thus the fencing guards were important, than as it is today. Roaring Dragon and Flying Phoenix are model after battle swords. Roaring Dragon as a double handed Chu Jian, were yield by warriors who wear the famous "Rhino Armor". That they were adequately protected from other blades and arrows. Flying Phoenix as a single handed battle sword were likely used with a shield. We know that because of existing murals of battle scenes that warriors often show to have a shield / gou-rang in one hand and an edge weapon on the other. Given that there is already protection by the shield, there was less need to have hand guards for battle swords. LK Chen also find out, after using both, that battle jian like Flying phoenix were design to be as fast and agile as possible. While the fencing Jian restrict the swordsmen from certain motions and techniques. So clearly there was a conscious tradeoff the way these military jian and civilian fencing jian was build and used. Having said that, the Pole Arm "Sha" which is really a sword on the end of a special design pole (more like a super extended sword handle) did have a very wide and robust guard. As you can see here. Will LK Chen sell this and other replica of antique pole arms and other CMA weapons? |
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Post by kk on Feb 1, 2020 15:57:11 GMT
Thank you so much for your interest and support.
Yes, once there are enough interest will bring these ancient pole arms back to life and offer to anyone who are interested in ancient Chinese pole arms
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Post by legacyofthesword on Feb 1, 2020 18:49:22 GMT
Thank you so much for your interest and support. Yes, once there are enough interest will bring these ancient pole arms back to life and offer to anyone who are interested in ancient Chinese pole arms Well then, put me down as very, very interested. |
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Post by Weaponeer on Feb 1, 2020 21:01:48 GMT
Thank you so much for your interest and support. Yes, once there are enough interest will bring these ancient pole arms back to life and offer to anyone who are interested in ancient Chinese pole arms Any plans on replicating antique CMA weapons, like tiger hook swords. Since all there is out there is bandy chrome wushu stuff, thats neither the right design, balance or even a weapon. So replicas of antiques would fill two markets, the unsharpened could be sold as trainers and the sharp once as weapons. Maybe down the line the company could replicate some bronze weapons, there are only a few smiths in the world who do that and I can't recall any of the doing Chinese bronze weapons. |
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Post by kk on Feb 1, 2020 21:06:30 GMT
Thank you all for your interest, support and suggestions !
This mean a lot for us.
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Post by stiletto on Feb 2, 2020 3:25:27 GMT
kk:
Thats some great work you are doing authentic chinese swords that don't break the bank, awsome! So do you plan on doing any Tang dynasty dao? Please be careful that corona virus seems to be out of hand. May the Lord be with you.
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Post by Zen_Hydra on Feb 2, 2020 5:57:35 GMT
I am very interested in historically accurate replicas of Chinese weapons which don't get commonly produced. I'd gladly buy ge and ji reproductions (especially if you offered them as unmounted polearm heads to save of shipping costs).
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