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Post by markitzero on Oct 24, 2019 17:44:59 GMT
Recently got a Devil's Edge Xiphos complete with the leather sheath KoA throws in. I understand that storing it in the sheath long term is not a good idea and will lead to rust, but how long can it safely stay in there short term? Days? Weeks?
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Post by LeMal on Oct 24, 2019 17:56:07 GMT
Depends. Same with wood scabbards. I've had some swords stay many years in one without a spot of rust, others pick it up right away. No correlation to type or quality of steel on the blade either.
Simple answer: just check it frequently. If it's working, don't deny your eyes; if not, don't use it with that blade and scabbard combo.
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Post by AndiTheBarvarian on Oct 24, 2019 17:57:50 GMT
Depends on your climate and the right oil coating of the blade. I have swords in leather sheaths for years without problems, dry climate here.
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Post by stormmaster on Oct 24, 2019 18:08:54 GMT
U gotta oil it or it will rust regardless
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Post by markitzero on Oct 24, 2019 18:12:00 GMT
I do live in a fairly dry climate and I regularly oil my blades with gun wipes (probably more than is needed).
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Post by Scott on Oct 24, 2019 23:52:25 GMT
Also depends on the leather. If you're oiling your blades regularly you should be fine.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2019 0:04:42 GMT
Hundreds of years.
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Post by leviathansteak on Oct 25, 2019 0:13:28 GMT
For me, if an oiled blade can stay in a sheath/scabbard for a few days without developing any rust, i consider that sheath 'safe' and ill happily leave the blade in for weeks.
My observation is that wood scabbards are betterand don't cause rust (as much)
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2019 0:39:59 GMT
It depends on a few basic factors. Vegetable tanned leather is friendlier the chrome tanned leather. Humidity and care.
My one remaining A&A sword has been in its vegetable tanned scabbard for most of two decades now, zero issues. I have several swords more than two hundred years old with the biggest losses the leather itself.
I do have a vegetable tanned scabbard that had an issue from the acids of the dye. Once hosed down with silicone spray, no issues.
Cheap cutlery often uses chrome tanned leather. Boot leather is often chrome tanned and the last time I made a knife scabbard out of it. I also have a one piece (seam up one side of the flats) made out of cardboard and duct tape. A companion of my cardboard days was sold with a sword and the owner still keeps the sword in that first cardboard proto. Not silver duct tape but mil spec 100mph tape.
Play it by ear.
Cheers GC
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Post by Scott on Oct 25, 2019 0:51:07 GMT
It depends on a few basic factors. Vegetable tanned leather is friendlier the chrome tanned leather. Humidity and care. My one remaining A&A sword has been in its vegetable tanned scabbard for most of two decades now, zero issues. I have several swords more than two hundred years old with the biggest losses the leather itself. I do have a vegetable tanned scabbard that had an issue from the acids of the dye. Once hosed down with silicone spray, no issues. Cheap cutlery often uses chrome tanned leather. Boot leather is often chrome tanned and the last time I made a knife scabbard out of it. I also have a one piece (seam up one side of the flats) made out of cardboard and duct tape. A companion of my cardboard days was sold with a sword and the owner still keeps the sword in that first cardboard proto. Not silver duct tape but mil spec 100mph tape. Play it by ear. Cheers GC A duct tape scabbard is genius! I'm going to have to make one now.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2019 1:19:14 GMT
It depends on a few basic factors. Vegetable tanned leather is friendlier the chrome tanned leather. Humidity and care. My one remaining A&A sword has been in its vegetable tanned scabbard for most of two decades now, zero issues. I have several swords more than two hundred years old with the biggest losses the leather itself. I do have a vegetable tanned scabbard that had an issue from the acids of the dye. Once hosed down with silicone spray, no issues. Cheap cutlery often uses chrome tanned leather. Boot leather is often chrome tanned and the last time I made a knife scabbard out of it. I also have a one piece (seam up one side of the flats) made out of cardboard and duct tape. A companion of my cardboard days was sold with a sword and the owner still keeps the sword in that first cardboard proto. Not silver duct tape but mil spec 100mph tape. Play it by ear. Cheers GC A duct tape scabbard is genius! I'm going to have to make one now. I don't have a quick diagram but find a long wide piece of cardboard. Lay the blade on the cb. Draw the profile of the blade. Then draw straight across the hilt end and find the center. Then, lay an edge against the center line and draw down the opposite edge. Repeat on the other side. Be generous in considering the lines because you will then be lightly scoring the cb to make folds that will end up as a butted seam. This all may take a couple of frustrating attempts. Tape long ways (or spiral, trickier). I had a perfect sabre attempt done but could not get the damn blade out (it was all too hot and humid that day). The best successes with pointier XVIII types but one can adjust a bit for more spatulate tips. Edit to say that when marking lines, draw them double (except the center) marking a second line a blade thickness apart and then score between those two. If you were perfect, you'll have a nice straight butted joint/seam. More edit- The orignal profile lines are what need to be doubled towards the outside (if that makes sense) and after scoring twixt them, the fold is towards the scored side (do the fold with blade in place). I don't have my sheet rock T square anymore but that was a good long straight edge. Getting old and condo kinda sucks at times. Cheers GC
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Post by pgandy on Oct 25, 2019 1:31:38 GMT
That's about asking how long is a piece of string.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2019 16:30:16 GMT
U gotta oil it or it will rust regardless I never oil my swords and I don't deal with rust. Dry climate ftw
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Post by Svadilfari on Oct 29, 2019 6:42:42 GMT
I've seen an awful lot of 100 year old plus bayonets in leather scabbards with very little rust on the blades.
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