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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2019 23:50:53 GMT
Unless expressly told not to by your teacher, I think anyone should give it a try after having a baseline set of skills. See for yourself. There's some good stuff you can use it to develop, but it can introduce artifacts into your head and your practice if you run too far with it.
Surgical, tight targeted slices and small cuts are either dispensed with or disregarded because they don't lead to dramatic effects on the straw. People get caught up in "that wouldn't do anything" without understanding that soft tissue and wara are not the same and do not react the same way.
I think it can easily lead to false impressions and extrapolation.
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Post by Timo Nieminen on Oct 2, 2019 23:54:42 GMT
Surgical, tight targeted slices These are good to practice on targets. Given good body mechanics, they can be quite effective. A suitable target gives some feedback about effective power generation with the minimal movement such cuts involve. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2019 12:39:42 GMT
Surgical, tight targeted slices These are good to practice on targets. Given good body mechanics, they can be quite effective. A suitable target gives some feedback about effective power generation with the minimal movement such cuts involve. If you were to drag the edge of your sword along a tameshigiri target with just the weight of the blade,it would have little to no effect. If you did the same thing across my throat, foream, inner thigh, or abdomen it would be a horror show. That's the idea I am getting at. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2019 12:40:19 GMT
Have you guys ever attempted to cut threw an iron helmet? No but if you would like to send me one I'd be happy to give it a go. |
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Post by Sir Thorfinn on Oct 3, 2019 14:29:22 GMT
Iron helmet, you bet.
Swords do NOTHING to them. Scratch, maybe a dent, the helm damages the sword, and if you're really good you can concuss the helm wearer, and probably break your sword.
But the 'clang' is very satisfying...
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Post by tensho on Oct 3, 2019 19:45:23 GMT
They kind of lost me on helmet cutting (kabutowari) I always thought this was a destructive(Aratameshi)testing to see how much stress a sword can take without damage. Usually done on several swords to see who the best smith is. This is also done on armor. You sometimes see some with damage from musket balls.
Same thing was done with cutting through criminals. Owner or smith paid for this to be done to show how good their blades were.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2019 12:23:53 GMT
Really dated but this hearkens back to when we were ordering Bugei wara ejmas.com/tin/tinart_smith_1103.htmlPaul Smith penned those thoughts in 2003 and some things don't change. The old wara offering from Bugei was deceptively soft and the last time I cut any Mugen Dachi tatami omote a few years ago, it showed I really don't cut much anymore. A perennial offering to these discussions is the (panned in Japan) film Budo-The Art Of Killing If one pays attention, Obata Toshishiro-kaiso plays a minor role in the film. Obata is remembered by some regarding his 1994 helmet splitting demonstration. Paul Champagne might be an even more obscure name these days. www.shinkendo.com/kabuto.htmlI can't say I am even a closet samurai at this point but it was back in the early 1990s when Japanese swords were drawing me to longer blades and a culture I had admired and learned from more from Akira Kurosawa films in the 1950s than productions of Gilbert&Sullivan's Mikado but both had an influence in my childhood home. As influential as the hollywood films of such as Errol Flynn's escapades. At any rate, cutting can be fun and a true training tool but do be careful. I managed eight stitches between two toes, even while wearing steel toe boots, so watch your balance and know how to use the brakes. I kind of lost ability more than interest, as neuropathy and bone infections have effected my stability. It was two summers ago I chose to sit with whiskey and a cigar while the younger generation went through a batch of Mugen Dachi tatami. Somewhat unbelievably, these folks are quickly approaching 40 and now more dedicated to the couples thing. Cheers GC |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2019 12:48:01 GMT
Kind of superficial but a good article from which one can further explore a bit. Cheers GC |
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Post by Timo Nieminen on Oct 12, 2019 1:33:32 GMT
These are good to practice on targets. Given good body mechanics, they can be quite effective. A suitable target gives some feedback about effective power generation with the minimal movement such cuts involve. If you were to drag the edge of your sword along a tameshigiri target with just the weight of the blade,it would have little to no effect. If you did the same thing across my throat, foream, inner thigh, or abdomen it would be a horror show. That's the idea I am getting at. More effective, faster, and no more telegraphic if done with power. Worth practicing, and cutting targets are good things to practice it on. More generally, the broader idea of power generation with minimal movement is worth including in cutting practice. Power generation via huge backswings can work well for cutting through things, but is less effective if the things you want to cut through can see it coming and move out of the way or do something else to avoid it. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2019 13:36:27 GMT
The bigger swings would come in after already affecting the opponent. The interval they would otherwise use to stifle or abort offense is filled by the opponent's efforts to regain balance and composure.
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