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Post by wlewisiii on Aug 9, 2019 17:04:14 GMT
I have really come to like my CS Backsword and as a result, I've been looking around for others of that style. I found Armor Class out of Scotland and after a talk with them, found that they could do a 1540s Mary Rose type sword for L325 or ~$400. This has their reenactment blade on it. I'd be ordering a sharp blade. I'm thinking about starting to save up for that to be my "thing" for the next year. Has anyone here worked with them before? Thanks!
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Post by stormmaster on Aug 9, 2019 17:23:12 GMT
they are pretty decent, i like how they have alot of hard to find styles
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Post by pgandy on Aug 9, 2019 18:43:50 GMT
When you get your sword let us knew your opinions and observations. I very much like my CS Backsword from the appearance and handling stand points. And could be interested in that one. Does a scabbard come with it for that price?
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Post by stormmaster on Aug 9, 2019 18:48:51 GMT
last i heard the wait time was a bit closer to the albion side of things
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Post by pgandy on Aug 9, 2019 19:56:03 GMT
Now I won't get my hopes up.
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Post by markus313 on Aug 9, 2019 20:38:13 GMT
Dream Sword.
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Post by viece on Aug 9, 2019 21:07:11 GMT
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Post by pgandy on Aug 9, 2019 22:26:19 GMT
Got it bookmarked. Thanks.
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Post by wlewisiii on Aug 10, 2019 1:14:16 GMT
Thank you for the information folks. I'll follow up with them and see what the lead time is for sure. I'd prefer not to go to Albion lengths but OTOH, I can understand them needing some time.
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Post by viece on Aug 10, 2019 11:14:39 GMT
Thank you for the information folks. I'll follow up with them and see what the lead time is for sure. I'd prefer not to go to Albion lengths but OTOH, I can understand them needing some time. Please let us know what you hear about wait times. I have a basket collection and might want to get one of these, too.
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Post by Dave Kelly on Aug 10, 2019 11:52:46 GMT
I have really come to like my CS Backsword and as a result, I've been looking around for others of that style. I found Armor Class out of Scotland and after a talk with them, found that they could do a 1540s Mary Rose type sword for L325 or ~$400. This has their reenactment blade on it. I'd be ordering a sharp blade. I'm thinking about starting to save up for that to be my "thing" for the next year. Has anyone here worked with them before? Thanks! That looks pretty good. How long is the grip? My Windlass Swords presentation grade is only 3 inches long. The basket cage is also constricted. Tried to make a rapier purchase from Armor Class a decade ago. They failed to put me on their production list 3 times in 12 mos. I told them to cancel the order and they could take my deposit money and.... They refunded me the money. My anger and disappointment didn't put them out of business. For this I might try another order. ;)
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Post by wlewisiii on Aug 10, 2019 18:40:33 GMT
Dave, the grip length is a good question that I'll pass along to them as well.
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Post by elbrittania39 on Aug 11, 2019 12:39:23 GMT
Love the Mary Rose sword. I'd be eager to hear your thoughts if you snagged it.
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Post by wlewisiii on Aug 11, 2019 20:58:09 GMT
Well, I have to get a car for the winter first But I do think this could be my savings/big purchase for next year. Right now just waiting on some more info from the maker.
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Post by Razor on Aug 11, 2019 21:57:47 GMT
I had a Armor Class Mort backsword. They make pretty big baskets and my handle length was 7". The Mary Ross handle looks like it would be the same length. I think they use the same dimension for all their basket hilt blades.
The sword handled very well. Pretty close to the antiques that I have handled. The blade thickness starts 1/8" and is very whippy.
I could cut tatami with it but I could feel the blade struggle. You will have to have 100% edge alignment to be able to cut with the blade. If you think you have good edge alignment, this blade will let you know right away how good it is.
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Post by Jordan Williams on Aug 11, 2019 22:29:48 GMT
Big basket like too big of basket? 7" of grip sounds like a lot.
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Post by pgandy on Aug 11, 2019 23:56:41 GMT
The sword handled very well. Pretty close to the antiques that I have handled. The blade thickness starts 1/8" and is very whippy. I liked the lines of the Armor Class Backsword and with the unknown issues aside for someone that likes to give point I don’t think that’s the sword for me. I like my CS Backsword and will stick with it. The blade is more flexible than I would prefer but not whippy like that one. And as flexible as it is it will give point to a reasonably resistant target. The grass is not always greener on the other side.
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Post by Razor on Aug 12, 2019 3:00:39 GMT
Big basket like too big of basket? 7" of grip sounds like a lot. Compared to the antique basket hilts, yes they are too big. If they made the basket the same size of the antiques and the weight that they took off the basket and put it on the forte to make it thicker. Then their sword would feel very close if not the same as the antiques. But there is people that like the overly big modern day basket hilts. It's around the same size of the CS Backsword.
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Post by Razor on Aug 12, 2019 3:11:28 GMT
The sword handled very well. Pretty close to the antiques that I have handled. The blade thickness starts 1/8" and is very whippy. I liked the lines of the Armor Class Backsword and with the unknown issues aside for someone that likes to give point I don’t think that’s the sword for me. I like my CS Backsword and will stick with it. The blade is more flexible than I would prefer but not whippy like that one. And as flexible as it is it will give point to a reasonably resistant target. The grass is not always greener on the other side. The whippy part of the blade was the biggest problem for me. It wasn't bad just because it was real flexible but where on the blade it would flex. Some of the antiques swords that I handles were very flexible but the flex right where they should flex. A blade with the correct distal tapper should flex on the foible. Swords that don't have the right distal tapper will start to flex either in the middle or forte of the blade. My TomKin Backsword, is really flexible but it flexes where it should and I have thrusted through a thick gameson over pork ribs with no problems. So it not just how flexible a blade is but where the blade is flexing that makes it a good or bad blade. Unfortunately the AC blade started to flex more in the middle if not the forte of the blade.
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