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Post by brothersteel on Jul 22, 2019 15:10:53 GMT
I'm comparing the options I know of on the market, and though I'd get some feedback. I plan on training with an off handed dagger (12" blade) as an extra discipline. Answer why after the poll. Thanks!
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Post by 28shadow on Jul 22, 2019 15:17:57 GMT
I have not personally owned any of the options listed. The only cutlass I've managed to own myself was a CS 1917 that I loved dearly but had to let go.
I voted for the Windlass 1860 as I am very familiar with Windlass Steelcrafts and can attest that for the price you will get a good sword.
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Post by AndiTheBarvarian on Jul 22, 2019 15:20:33 GMT
For me the D'Capitan is the ultimate hanger if you like the postacopa... apocalyptic design. It's not a lightweight but well balanced and pointy, mean knuckleduster guard. Guess the 1860 is good too but I don't have it (yet). The others I don't know. Good that you've left the English Cutlass and the Hanwei Naval Boarding Cutlass.
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Post by markus313 on Jul 22, 2019 15:31:34 GMT
Windlass 1860 Naval Cutlass for handling and protection.
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Post by demonskull on Jul 22, 2019 15:45:41 GMT
I don't have one but the Gold Coast length and weight look good coupled with the hand protection and price.
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Post by markus313 on Jul 22, 2019 15:53:21 GMT
I don't have one but the Gold Coast length and weight look good coupled with the hand protection and price. I agree and am thinking about getting one.
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Post by pgandy on Jul 22, 2019 17:28:53 GMT
I don’t think any of them will beat my Klewang Cutlass, which is not an option. That said I’d opt for the Windlass M1860. It has a good reputation and the best hand protection of the choices given. The Hanwei has a round grip, if that bothers you. You might consider an Universal briguet (2) in 1055 steel. But that M1860 should be a good one.
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Post by wlewisiii on Jul 22, 2019 17:47:22 GMT
I went with the 1860 and think it is lovely looking and handling. Probably #3 of my swords after the Windlass 1906 and the CS English Backsword.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2019 19:15:37 GMT
The Golden Coast Cutlass is based off of Napoleonic era French stylings. It should in no way be regarded as part of the golden age of piracy, any gold coast and for that matter naval but was found on both straight and curved infantry blades. Elite Imperial Grenadiers and such.
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Post by pellius on Jul 23, 2019 1:21:20 GMT
I’ve never owned any of these, but I voted anyway. 😬
I went with the ZT. I’ve owned a couple of other ZT’s; great steel with great tempering, and the D’Cap looks like it has that ultra-durable ZT saber grind.
The zombie-style stuff isn’t really my thing, but the D’Cap resists the more over-the-top details.
I do still own a ZT Parabellum (bolo knife) - another more “conservative” ZT design. The weight and balance are really pretty good, and the build quality is top notch for what it is. I’m confident it will easily stand up to years of service and abuse. I would think the D’Cap would, too.
Plus, ZT’s seem to be easy to sell for their price class. 🙂
Edit: I didn't change my vote, but I did look up the (so far) top vote-getting Windlass 1860 Naval Cutlass on KoA. Looks like its price is only about 1/3 that of the ZT, even if you throw in a KoA sharpening service. So, yeah, I like the ZT more, but prolly not three times more.
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Post by Eric Bergeron on Jul 29, 2019 16:09:48 GMT
I have a question what is wrong with the Hanwei Hanger and MRL Pirate captain swords?
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Post by pgandy on Jul 29, 2019 21:22:32 GMT
I have a question what is wrong with the Hanwei Hanger and MRL Pirate captain swords? To me the Hanwei Hanger is out because of its round grip, not a good idea on a cutting sword. It makes edge alignment more difficult. As for the Pirate Captain it might be safer to say too roundish, I think not as round as the Hanwei. In both cases I’d go for the M1860 because of the hand protection. I think the grip is better shaped also. The reason that I haven’t as of yet is that I am satisfied with my Klewang cutlass. But one day soon I hope the M1860.
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Post by markus313 on Jul 29, 2019 21:51:57 GMT
Had all of those except the Z-Tools and the Windlass Golden Coast. On the Hanwei I found the grip to be uncomfortable, too cramped and rubbing the pinky, the blade came dull and handling was bit sluggish. The point does not lend well to thrusting. On the Pirate Captain’s Hanger the grip was completely round, the guard plate much too heavy and the balance too far back to make for good cutting.
The Windlass 1860 and WE Klewang are some of the best mass-produced repros in this category, the Windlass being better for thrusting, the Klewang better for cutting work.
The CS Cutlass Machete is not listed, but is a good thruster and terrific cutter (with the shoulders taken off a bit), and durable as can be - more than well worth its price.
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Post by howler on Jul 30, 2019 2:08:08 GMT
Had all of those except the Z-Tools and the Windlass Golden Coast. On the Hanwei I found the grip to be uncomfortable, too cramped and rubbing the pinky, the blade came dull and handling was bit sluggish. The point does not lend well to thrusting. On the Pirate Captain’s Hanger the grip was completely round, the guard plate much too heavy and the balance too far back to make for good cutting. The Windlass 1860 and WE Klewang are some of the best mass-produced repros in this category, the Windlass being better for thrusting, the Klewang better for cutting work. The CS Cutlass Machete is not listed, but is a good thruster and terrific cutter (with the shoulders taken off a bit), and durable as can be - more than well worth its price. I was going to mention the CS Machete but you beat me to it. Of those listed, I guess the Windlass 1860.
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Post by Eric Bergeron on Jul 30, 2019 2:09:45 GMT
Thanks for the replies, I have always loved the antique sword Jack Sparrow uses on Pirates of the Caribbean, and of course the Hanwei Hanger is almost close enough to resemble that. I own the Hanwei one and I like the sword mine came sharp as I ordered it sharp from KoA, yes the grip could be a little better but I like the sword overall. I would like to get the 1860 version and put a hilt like Jack Sparrow's on that blade someday.
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Post by Razor on Jul 30, 2019 2:22:15 GMT
I own the Hanwei Revolutionary War Hanger, both ZT D'Cap cutlass(Discontinued), and saber. I handled and cut with the Windlass Pirate Captain Cutlass and I have some experience with the Windlass 1860 Naval Cutlass.
I'm left handed so there are cutlass that are made for right hand only. :(
I don't know when Pgandy, got his Hanwei Hanger, but mine doesn't have a round grip. It is round by the pommel but it flatten out and is oval by the time it gets to the guard. I have no problem indexing the grip for edge alignment Or thrusting with. I am planning on doing a review on it but I have to wait until I have my surgery to fix my torn meniscus on Aug 20th. I handles alright and it handles better than the two D'Caps. It also handles better than the CS cutlass machete. The two big complaints that I have with it, is the guard is dished out and can rub on the edges of the hand(Wearing gloves helps out with that). The second one is the distal tapper or lack of one. After I finish with the review I might shave the blade down and give it a better distal tapper like I did with my CS 1796 saber.
The Windlass Pirate cutlass does have a round handle but the guard is big and flat so it is comfortable to the top of the hand. I had no problem cutting tatami mats with it. If you do decide to get this one, all you would need is make a new grip for it.
I like the Windlass 1860 and if they made one for left handers, I probably would get one.
I Voted the Hanwei because it's ambidextrous with good hand protection that doesn't have a round grip. If Windlass made a left hand 1860,there would be a good chance I would be voting for this one instead.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 30, 2019 2:28:12 GMT
The Windlass is essentially the same sword that was sold by Factory X as the Jack Sparrow sword. The Hanwei has a better overall historic profile and blade grind but the castings from both sources are kind of a bleh to me but I am a collector of 18th century swords.
The whole precept of the Pirates of the Caribbean is quite greatly flawed in historic timeline but are great fun to watch.
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Post by pgandy on Jul 30, 2019 11:16:27 GMT
I don't know when Pgandy, got his Hanwei Hanger, but mine doesn't have a round grip. For the record I don’t have a Hanwei Hanger. I took the question “..what is wrong with the Hanwei Hanger..” as why I didn’t vote for it. Judging from KoA’s photo I interpreted the cutlass as having a round grip and not a grip transitioning to round. My error.
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Post by pgandy on Jul 30, 2019 11:23:28 GMT
The Windlass 1860 and WE Klewang are some of the best mass-produced repros in this category, the Windlass being better for thrusting, the Klewang better for cutting work. I can’t argue that the Windlass is better at thrusting as I don’t have one, yet. As for the WE Klewang after sharpening the clip point it passes my 4 ply rug test, which is all that ask. Prior to sharpening with the factory point I wouldn’t have even tried.
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