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Post by reptaronice1 on May 15, 2019 5:39:41 GMT
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Post by leviathansteak on May 15, 2019 10:27:16 GMT
Try using that and you stand a chance to add your own blood splatter to that awful paint job
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Post by MOK on May 15, 2019 10:30:42 GMT
Could be worse! Somebody could be selling it for thousands of dollars on eBay as a genuine antique old real samurai ninja katana zombie one piece naruto nihonto tachi sword knife blade cutter.  (Yes, that actually happens.) |
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Post by reptaronice1 on May 15, 2019 14:37:25 GMT
Could be worse! Somebody could be selling it for thousands of dollars on eBay as a genuine antique old real samurai ninja katana zombie one piece naruto nihonto tachi sword knife blade cutter. (Yes, that actually happens.) XD link that trash to me lol |
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Post by reptaronice1 on May 15, 2019 14:37:46 GMT
Try using that and you stand a chance to add your own blood splatter to that awful paint job Very true! XD |
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Post by reptaronice1 on May 15, 2019 15:18:20 GMT
Could be worse! Somebody could be selling it for thousands of dollars on eBay as a genuine antique old real samurai ninja katana zombie one piece naruto nihonto tachi sword knife blade cutter. (Yes, that actually happens.) "Authentic Zombie Hunter Nihonto hand forged in Japan with custom zombie blood painted on it and a high quality plastic tsuba! Even has american writing on it! Can be yours for only 10K!" XD |
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Post by reptaronice1 on May 15, 2019 15:25:35 GMT
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Post by randomnobody on May 15, 2019 16:25:56 GMT
That actually looks pretty legit to me, though I have some questions about the hada. I can't remember if high5japan is considered a reliable seller, but considering the item ships from Tokyo, I'm gonna say this one's the real deal. You can't really judge by the price of an online auction. You say $700, I see $770+, with two days to go. It's likely to go double or maybe triple its current bid. As for the furniture, it could well be modern, at least the ito and sageo. People do change these things. |
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Post by reptaronice1 on May 15, 2019 16:32:19 GMT
That actually looks pretty legit to me, though I have some questions about the hada. I can't remember if high5japan is considered a reliable seller, but considering the item ships from Tokyo, I'm gonna say this one's the real deal. You can't really judge by the price of an online auction. You say $700, I see $770+, with two days to go. It's likely to go double or maybe triple its current bid. As for the furniture, it could well be modern, at least the ito and sageo. People do change these things. Dont many longquan sellers also say they ship from tokyo tho? Idk it just worries me that the sageo and ito are very new looking and the samegawa is super clean. The tsuba seems legit to me tho. |
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Post by reptaronice1 on May 15, 2019 16:33:44 GMT
That actually looks pretty legit to me, though I have some questions about the hada. I can't remember if high5japan is considered a reliable seller, but considering the item ships from Tokyo, I'm gonna say this one's the real deal. You can't really judge by the price of an online auction. You say $700, I see $770+, with two days to go. It's likely to go double or maybe triple its current bid. As for the furniture, it could well be modern, at least the ito and sageo. People do change these things. this one is dirt cheap www.ebay.com/itm/Japanese-72-5cm-L-Wakizashi-Sword-Hirosada-370Y-Antique-Samurai-Katana-Nihonto/273841256410?hash=item3fc235f7da:g:PtAAAOSwfeZc1gMi I mean it does have 4 more days but still at that price it is concerning for me. |
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Post by randomnobody on May 15, 2019 16:42:23 GMT
Nakago looks good to me, and the polish, while not great, is at least not the same as most Chinese katana.
I don't know of any China-based sellers that claim to ship from elsewhere, but maybe some do. This seller's not one of them, from what I've seen of them in the past.
Again, furniture changes. Fabric and such decay faster than steel. As swords change hands, new owners will change it to suit them. It's not uncommon for a blade that may be several hundred years old to be given a brand-new set of furniture, especially if it lost the last one at some point.
I only have two antique nihonto. One with and one without koshirae. One is just a bare blade in a junk saya for safety. If I ever get it polished, I'll be getting it new furniture, too. That won't change its status as an antique.
My other wakizashi has old furniture that will probably be retired to a tsunagi of I ever get the blade polished. It's just in not-great shape. Ito snapped in one place, saya is worn and cracked, habaki doesn't really fit, I could go on. It's just the life of a working tool: parts change.
Edit: Second link looks legit, too. Again, you can't go by starting bids. They'll start low to get attention, than the bidding war hits on the last day.
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Post by reptaronice1 on May 15, 2019 16:59:43 GMT
Nakago looks good to me, and the polish, while not great, is at least not the same as most Chinese katana. I don't know of any China-based sellers that claim to ship from elsewhere, but maybe some do. This seller's not one of them, from what I've seen of them in the past. Again, furniture changes. Fabric and such decay faster than steel. As swords change hands, new owners will change it to suit them. It's not uncommon for a blade that may be several hundred years old to be given a brand-new set of furniture, especially if it lost the last one at some point. I only have two antique nihonto. One with and one without koshirae. One is just a bare blade in a junk saya for safety. If I ever get it polished, I'll be getting it new furniture, too. That won't change its status as an antique. My other wakizashi has old furniture that will probably be retired to a tsunagi of I ever get the blade polished. It's just in not-great shape. Ito snapped in one place, saya is worn and cracked, habaki doesn't really fit, I could go on. It's just the life of a working tool: parts change. Edit: Second link looks legit, too. Again, you can't go by starting bids. They'll start low to get attention, than the bidding war hits on the last day. Then what is the whole fake chinese replicas I keep hearing about. |
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Post by randomnobody on May 15, 2019 17:28:17 GMT
A very different thing altogether.  There are dishonest folk, and there are things to look for that let you know when you're dealing with them. It's all a matter of education and experience. |
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Post by reptaronice1 on May 15, 2019 18:19:19 GMT
A very different thing altogether. There are dishonest folk, and there are things to look for that let you know when you're dealing with them. It's all a matter of education and experience. Truth brother! Which I lack as I only own 3 Katana with a 4th on the way lol and this new one was the first good brand I picked |
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Post by csills2313 on May 15, 2019 18:26:34 GMT
Could be worse! Somebody could be selling it for thousands of dollars on eBay as a genuine antique old real samurai ninja katana zombie one piece naruto nihonto tachi sword knife blade cutter. (Yes, that actually happens.) For the price of $29 it obviously is a toy sword meant for kids to play with. I doubt many zombies would be scared by this ☝️ |
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Post by Jussi Ekholm on May 15, 2019 18:29:31 GMT
I'll try to word things neutrally. Thing about High5Japan and few other eBay sellers is that they pretty much sell stuff to Western market that don't get sold inside Japan. They know that plenty of buyers here in the west just jump in as they are Japanese swords.
Sure they have some decent stuff every now and then but their decent stuff is not cheap.
First one above is a mumei katana in horrible condition as far as polish in considered. Second wakizashi is gimei (false signature) of 1st generation Hizen Hirosada, in pretty nasty condition. But yes both are real Japanese swords with unfortunately low collecting value, that is the reason they will go at least relatively cheaply.
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Post by reptaronice1 on May 15, 2019 18:30:16 GMT
Could be worse! Somebody could be selling it for thousands of dollars on eBay as a genuine antique old real samurai ninja katana zombie one piece naruto nihonto tachi sword knife blade cutter. (Yes, that actually happens.) For the price of $29 it obviously is a toy sword meant for kids to play with. I doubt many zombies would be scared by this ☝️ Save up for your kid and buy them a 60$ Musha that can actually do some damage. |
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Post by reptaronice1 on May 15, 2019 18:33:36 GMT
I'll try to word things neutrally. Thing about High5Japan and few other eBay sellers is that they pretty much sell stuff to Western market that don't get sold inside Japan. They know that plenty of buyers here in the west just jump in as they are Japanese swords. Sure they have some decent stuff every now and then but their decent stuff is not cheap. First one above is a mumei katana in horrible condition as far as polish in considered. Second wakizashi is gimei (false signature) of 1st generation Hizen Hirosada, in pretty nasty condition. But yes both are real Japanese swords with unfortunately low collecting value, that is the reason they will go at least relatively cheaply. Thanks Jussi U sure know ur stuff on this. |
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Post by randomnobody on May 15, 2019 19:03:15 GMT
I meant to refer to Jussi in my previous posts, specifically for the mei on the second auction as he's far more in-the-know than I am.
Both my antiques are mumei, and not very desirable by serious collectors, but I like them just fine so they suit my needs. Others are more particular.
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Post by reptaronice1 on May 15, 2019 19:59:02 GMT
I meant to refer to Jussi in my previous posts, specifically for the mei on the second auction as he's far more in-the-know than I am. Both my antiques are mumei, and not very desirable by serious collectors, but I like them just fine so they suit my needs. Others are more particular. They would make beautiful display pieces. |
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