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Post by joeybones on May 7, 2019 20:30:20 GMT
I have a Cold Steel Chinese war sword machete . I was thinking of upgrading to the Condor Dynasty Dadao but I also like the Grosse Messer from Cold Steel (either MAA or regular version).
If anyone has experience with both I would like to know which they prefer and why ?
My intended use would be backyard chopping of brush, plastic bottles , branches and whatever else I can find.
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Post by stormmaster on May 7, 2019 20:33:17 GMT
The condor dadao is a beast and should hold up to anything, might come with a not overly sharp edge tho
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Post by howler on May 8, 2019 0:43:21 GMT
I have a Cold Steel Chinese war sword machete . I was thinking of upgrading to the Condor Dynasty Dadao but I also like the Grosse Messer from Cold Steel (either MAA or regular version). If anyone has experience with both I would like to know which they prefer and why ? My intended use would be backyard chopping of brush, plastic bottles , branches and whatever else I can find. The Condor is nicer, but with the creeping price increase of Condor Products these last few years you will have to decide if you want a collection. Condor is a lot of blade for under $100, but the CS can do massive damage and is still under $50.
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Post by AndiTheBarvarian on May 8, 2019 1:39:34 GMT
I have the Warsword Machete and the Grosse Messer. I see no sense in buying the Dadao when you have the machete already. The Messer is an a bit different beast.
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Post by leviathansteak on May 8, 2019 1:43:13 GMT
I used to have the grosse messer, shiny version.
A bit dull when i got it but it could cut like an insane monster once i put an edge on it. The blade geometry is good (might not be the same for maa version though) and once you have a slim bevel on it it'll be an awesome cutter.
The pommel on mine was rotated slightly out of alignment with the grip.
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Post by pgandy on May 8, 2019 2:48:02 GMT
If your intent is to cut brush, bottles, branches, and the likes you already have a machete. If you just want a change try a different machete, possibly CS Cutlass machete if you want something that looks like a sword. A machete is cheaper and a good one will deliver when it comes to the cutting stated above. They are lighter, less fatiguing, cheaper, and faster than grosse messer. A grosse messer is whole different animal, and that is certainly not saying that there is anything wrong with a messer, big or small they have a good reputation.
For the price of a machete you can probably afford a machete and messer solving your dilemma.
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Post by Jayhawk on May 8, 2019 11:51:45 GMT
The Condor dadao is a beast...truly a blast to cut with. I would not compare it to the CS machete version of a dadao. Nothing g wrong with a good machete, but that's like comparing a whiffle ball bat to a baseball bat.
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Post by Jordan Williams on May 8, 2019 16:03:10 GMT
Another vote for the cheaper cutlass machete for vegetation clearing. It's a very adequate tool and I've used it for anything from drill, bottlecutting, work, and chores.
Plus if I broke it it's only like 20 bucks.
So my vote goes to the cheaper option here for tool and abuse use.
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Post by pgandy on May 8, 2019 17:24:07 GMT
I don’t know the Condor dadao nor have the statistics handy. I do have their Engineering Bolo. It is well made, a workhorse, and like Jayhawk describes his dadao a beast, certainly a powerhouse. Having said that, I wouldn’t think of using it for fun, or clearing brush, nor using it for repeated cuts above shoulder height. For all of its good qualities it’s fatiguing. I cut grass with a 14½” machete and sometimes a 18” jobby. Like Jay says there is no comparison between the two. A good machete is hard to beat and a SS one from China doesn’t begin to qualify.
FWIW a machete is not a classy thing and holds no prestige with most people who consider them OK for light brush work but no more. I’ve severed a pig’s leg in one cut, opened coconuts, dug holes, shovelled, pruned bushes and trees, cleaned out drainage ditches, as well as pest control killing rats, and more with mine. I find machetes generally underestimated by Americans.
Like I said earlier for the price of a machete you can buy a machete and something else that will make a better show piece. A machete will be the better workhorse of whatever else you choose. The also make a good backyard cutter.
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Post by joeybones on May 8, 2019 19:44:37 GMT
Thanks for the input everyone. Gives me something to think about.
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