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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2019 11:38:44 GMT
Gents, may i have some opinions from the community? And please: your honest, a little bit founded opinion - or critics, of course! But, by the gods, pretty please: NO mindless Cold Steel bashing, OK? Data, according to knifecenter.com: Weight: 39.7 oz. Blade Thickness: 4.0 mm Blade Length: 30.0" Handle: 7.0" Long. Rosewood Overall: 37.0" Steel: Damascus (no info on steel types unfortunately, neither on CS main site) Sheath: Wood, Brown Leather and Embossed Brass Made in China Attachments:
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2019 12:16:53 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2019 12:20:35 GMT
Will these manufacturers just STOP with the acute tips? The tips on these swords were spatulate! Are they incapable of looking at museum originals? A freaking google search would do this.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2019 12:36:52 GMT
Will these manufacturers just STOP with the acute tips? The tips on these swords were spatulate! Are they incapable of looking at museum originals? A freaking google search would do this. Objection sustained; but that's a common problem, except Albion and DelTin. The Hanwei is OK.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2019 12:39:16 GMT
Will these manufacturers just STOP with the acute tips? The tips on these swords were spatulate! Are they incapable of looking at museum originals? A freaking google search would do this. Objection sustained; but that's a common problem, except Albion and DelTin. The Hanwei is OK. It will stop me from buying one of these. Just take it back to the grinder and fix it! What a waste of pattern welded steel.
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Post by AndiTheBarvarian on Apr 8, 2019 12:41:29 GMT
I think CS couldn't decide if they should make a migration era sword or a viking sword and mixed it (and set the price for two swords). To me it looks weird. The damascus is probably the same they use for the folded gim/kat. So ok I guess.
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Post by Timo Nieminen on Apr 8, 2019 12:52:46 GMT
Looks OK. I wonder price it will be at typical retailers. The tip can be fixed if desired easily enough. The grip is longer than average but not stupidly long (and it looks like a nut at the end of the pommel - probably the typical modern Chinese large-nut-at-end-of-grip and small-nut-on-pommel - so it might be easy enough to change the length of the grip, too).
Much more historically correct than their old Viking sword. (But plenty to be fussy about, if so inclined: the tip, the fuller termination, the damascus pattern, and probably more.)
A matching seax, too.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2019 13:01:58 GMT
Looks OK. I wonder price it will be at typical retailers. The tip can be fixed if desired easily enough. The grip is longer than average but not stupidly long (and it looks like a nut at the end of the pommel - probably the typical modern Chinese large-nut-at-end-of-grip and small-nut-on-pommel - so it might be easy enough to change the length of the grip, too). Much more historically correct than their old Viking sword. (But plenty to be fussy about, if so inclined: the tip, the fuller termination, the damascus pattern, and probably more.) A matching seax, too. Yes, I suppose the tip could be adjusted. One could also take off the hilt and replace it with a hilt of your choosing. I have long desired a pattern welded type X blade. How much do we think this sword will cost when it appears on KOA?
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Post by Timo Nieminen on Apr 8, 2019 13:09:30 GMT
How much do we think this sword will cost when it appears on KOA? Going by the usual ratio of KoA's price to Cold Steel's price, about $450.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2019 14:17:11 GMT
knifecenter.com pre-order 479,- USD if i remember correctly. In Germany: 769,- Euro!
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Post by AndiTheBarvarian on Apr 8, 2019 15:07:28 GMT
Besides the blade, the steel, the hilt and the ridiculous price in Germany it's not a bad sword!
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Post by Zen_Hydra on Apr 8, 2019 17:14:06 GMT
Looks OK. I wonder price it will be at typical retailers. The tip can be fixed if desired easily enough. The grip is longer than average but not stupidly long (and it looks like a nut at the end of the pommel - probably the typical modern Chinese large-nut-at-end-of-grip and small-nut-on-pommel - so it might be easy enough to change the length of the grip, too). Much more historically correct than their old Viking sword. (But plenty to be fussy about, if so inclined: the tip, the fuller termination, the damascus pattern, and probably more.) A matching seax, too. Yes, I suppose the tip could be adjusted. One could also take off the hilt and replace it with a hilt of your choosing. I have long desired a pattern welded type X blade. How much do we think this sword will cost when it appears on KOA? The price-point seems a bit steep for a project blade made from dubiously pattern-welded "steel," which also needs the tip re-profiled. You could probably get a custom made pattern-welded blade from a Chinese smith built to your specifications for less.
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Post by LeMal on Apr 8, 2019 17:27:26 GMT
With Cold Steel it's always best not to speculate until it's out and you have it in hand. Could be a gem, could be a dud, could be anywhere in between, with or without customization. With them you just never know. (Which is why I always stop at the showroom whenever passing through Ventura so I can see and feel them in person.)
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Post by christain on Apr 8, 2019 17:43:18 GMT
This looks to be an 'okay' sword, but with CS prices rising into the VA/DSA/DT range, I can't see it being a big seller. I would consider it if within the $275-350 range. It IS nice looking...but so was my EX-WIFE.
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Post by LeMal on Apr 8, 2019 21:09:54 GMT
With Cold Steel it's always best not to speculate until it's out and you have it in hand. Could be a gem, could be a dud, could be anywhere in between, with or without customization. With them you just never know. (Which is why I always stop at the showroom whenever passing through Ventura so I can see and feel them in person.) In your opinion, what swords were you impressed with in the showroom in person? Both Euro and Asian. Anything you were impressed with? The shamshir is one of my favorite swords bar none, including Albions, customs etc. The one-handed Messer is extremely good. The Napoleonic sabre is quite good. A bunch of them are *ok* budget pieces if they can be gotten at a good price: the Polish saber and 1796 with, the Italian LS, the bastard, the LaFontaine, the "grosses messers." Haven't handled some, like the English backsword, but many people like them all right. As with any big production maker, when it comes to your definition of "ok" your mileage may vary. Especially if you're anenable to playing with minor adjustments or not. Then there's some real stinkers in the mix to beware. The 1917 saber and the 2H greatsword stick out as total "you've got to be kidding!" flops. But to revisit the basic point, it ranges widely. Find whatever you're interested in in IRL and handle it to be sure.
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Post by pvsampson on Apr 9, 2019 1:17:17 GMT
knifecenter.com pre-order 479,- USD if i remember correctly. In Germany: 769,- Euro! Add in shipping and over $800 in Australia. We always get screwed here for sword prices.
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Post by LeMal on Apr 9, 2019 1:51:31 GMT
[/quote]It's good to hear that about the shamshir. Did you handle the newer design with the more fancy guard and scabbard?[/quote]
Handled but not bought--despite temptation just because of the nice looking guard. But last thing I need is a FOURTH one of them! 🤣
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Post by stormmaster on Apr 9, 2019 2:14:42 GMT
grip looks too long and wide, and the termination of the tip is off, otherwises it is a pretty looking sword
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Post by elbrittania39 on Apr 9, 2019 2:55:06 GMT
I think the scabbard looks above average for this price range. The sword itself just kinda gets a shrug from me. It doesn't look terrible, but there are better options.
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Post by zabazagobo on Apr 9, 2019 3:01:58 GMT
In your opinion, what swords were you impressed with in the showroom in person? Both Euro and Asian. Anything you were impressed with? The shamshir is one of my favorite swords bar none, including Albions, customs etc. The one-handed Messer is extremely good. The Napoleonic sabre is quite good. A bunch of them are *ok* budget pieces if they can be gotten at a good price: the Polish saber and 1796 with, the Italian LS, the bastard, the LaFontaine, the "grosses messers." Haven't handled some, like the English backsword, but many people like them all right. As with any big production maker, when it comes to your definition of "ok" your mileage may vary. Especially if you're anenable to playing with minor adjustments or not. Then there's some real stinkers in the mix to beware. The 1917 saber and the 2H greatsword stick out as total "you've got to be kidding!" flops. But to revisit the basic point, it ranges widely. Find whatever you're interested in in IRL and handle it to be sure. I've really been thinking about nabbing a shamshir lately (hence a bit of context for my lighthearted thread from Friday), what do you like the most about it? If you've nabbed three of them they must be pretty nicely done.
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