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Post by juardian on Jan 28, 2019 23:11:27 GMT
Finally went out and did a dedicated cutting video with my Oniyuri. Cuts very well considering I kept hitting too high on the bottles. After I get a cutting stand I'll definitely do another. I thought the lack of forward weight and blade presence would provide an issue, but I suppose bottles are light enough that it didn't matter. I also slipped in a few iai/drawing cuts which I don't often practice on bottles.
Next time I'll try to get a few different targets for variety, as I'm sure the people on here have seen enough water bottles being slain.
Edit: Here's a second video where I do some cooler cuts with my sword being sharper. I'm not sure of sbg etiquette, but I assume adding this here is better than making a new thread.
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Post by csills2313 on Jan 29, 2019 1:28:00 GMT
Very good cutting session. Your cutting got better as you continued to cut. I find that it helps if I do a warm up session before cutting. Helps loosen up my old joints 😁
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Post by Jordan Williams on Jan 29, 2019 2:59:47 GMT
You may also find that hanging bottles from tree branches is a good way to vary technique, as there is no stand to worry about clipping.
It also allows you to use low to high cuts as well.
Nice cutting, and nice video presence as well.
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Post by juardian on Jan 29, 2019 18:18:48 GMT
You may also find that hanging bottles from tree branches is a good way to vary technique, as there is no stand to worry about clipping. It also allows you to use low to high cuts as well. Nice cutting, and nice video presence as well. Thank you for the compliments and advice, I'll try that if I can find a decent branch.
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Post by juardian on Jan 29, 2019 18:20:25 GMT
Very good cutting session. Your cutting got better as you continued to cut. I find that it helps if I do a warm up session before cutting. Helps loosen up my old joints 😁 Yeah, I was definitely a bit shabby in the beginning haha. Doing some warm up cuts is probably a good idea for me.
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Post by RufusScorpius on Jan 31, 2019 22:56:37 GMT
You looked like you had a lot of fun. At the end of the day I think that is what matters most. For a real cutting challenge, try pool noodles. They are surprisingly hard to cut. You can't cut them by simply bashing through them with a sword, you have to use a good technique. It's not that the foam is tough or anything, it's that they are floppy and that makes them sometimes aggravatingly difficult to slice through. Good thing about them, is that you can pick them up at yard sales and the Dollar Store for next to nothing (way cheaper than tatami mats).
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Post by csills2313 on Jan 31, 2019 23:09:24 GMT
I am going to try some pool noodles and see how well I do. I do very well with tatami bamboo and water bottles
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Post by juardian on Feb 19, 2019 18:43:17 GMT
I just added a new cutting video to the thread, skip to like 45 seconds in to skip to the cuts.
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Post by RufusScorpius on Feb 20, 2019 21:31:13 GMT
Very good. Have you any formal training?
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Post by juardian on Feb 20, 2019 23:25:23 GMT
Very good. Have you any formal training? Thank you. And no, I'm just some bum on a mountain who enjoys doing weapon stuff in my free time. If I ever move somewhere near a dojo I'd certainly visit.
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Post by RufusScorpius on Feb 21, 2019 0:38:36 GMT
Cool, thanks for sharing that. It's been my experience that merely asking if somebody has had training is often taken to mean that I am criticizing technique or otherwise being insulting. I was just wondering as to where you learned the technical aspects of your technique. I teach a form of kenjutsu as an extension of the martial art school I attend so I tend to notice certain things in other people's styles. I could tell that your technique is not based on a fighting style, but more Iado-ish. Not that it's a bad thing, it's just a different way to approach the art. There is really no "right" way to approach the katana since nobody actually uses them anymore for either every day carry or in warfare, so whatever floats your boat is good enough! I personally prefer the fighting style of the Sengoku period (1500's or so) which is also known as the "Warring States" in which (overly simplified) fighting was for real and flowery artsy forms quickly went away in favor of more direct, and violent, approaches. It's certainly a completely different way of looking at the katana when your opponent is actively trying to kill you, and you are doing the same to him. More often than not, it devolves very quickly into a fist fight. So with that in mind, I did notice you had a very wide follow through and I was thinking to myself that to beat you all I had to do was make you miss one time, step in close, and stab you in the throat. No offence meant, just how I look at styles and form. But on the plus side, you did cut the hell out of your targets...
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Post by howler on Feb 21, 2019 2:27:35 GMT
Finally went out and did a dedicated cutting video with my Oniyuri. Cuts very well considering I kept hitting too high on the bottles. After I get a cutting stand I'll definitely do another. I thought the lack of forward weight and blade presence would provide an issue, but I suppose bottles are light enough that it didn't matter. I also slipped in a few iai/drawing cuts which I don't often practice on bottles. Next time I'll try to get a few different targets for variety, as I'm sure the people on here have seen enough water bottles being slain. Edit: Here's a second video where I do some cooler cuts with my sword being sharper. I'm not sure of sbg etiquette, but I assume adding this here is better than making a new thread. The swinging at 1:05 of the video was pretty cool and impressive, though admit it made me a wee nervous due to the blade sharpness. Reminds me to get more into staff play, and as a middle aged dude, I think I'll stick with blunt objects, my fingers, toes, ears, nose, and the similar appendages of those around me being most grateful.
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Post by juardian on Feb 21, 2019 3:06:33 GMT
Cool, thanks for sharing that. It's been my experience that merely asking if somebody has had training is often taken to mean that I am criticizing technique or otherwise being insulting. I was just wondering as to where you learned the technical aspects of your technique. I teach a form of kenjutsu as an extension of the martial art school I attend so I tend to notice certain things in other people's styles. I could tell that your technique is not based on a fighting style, but more Iado-ish. Not that it's a bad thing, it's just a different way to approach the art. There is really no "right" way to approach the katana since nobody actually uses them anymore for either every day carry or in warfare, so whatever floats your boat is good enough! I personally prefer the fighting style of the Sengoku period (1500's or so) which is also known as the "Warring States" in which (overly simplified) fighting was for real and flowery artsy forms quickly went away in favor of more direct, and violent, approaches. It's certainly a completely different way of looking at the katana when your opponent is actively trying to kill you, and you are doing the same to him. More often than not, it devolves very quickly into a fist fight. So with that in mind, I did notice you had a very wide follow through and I was thinking to myself that to beat you all I had to do was make you miss one time, step in close, and stab you in the throat. No offence meant, just how I look at styles and form. But on the plus side, you did cut the hell out of your targets... That's a fair assessment, although on that last paragraph keep in mind sparring and cutting bottles requires a completely different skillset from me. I don't get to spar much anymore, but I was more on the defensive side using a sort of chu-dan no kamae mostly. I certainly don't attack somebody with a sword the same way I do a bottle lol. I certainly wouldn't be the type to swing first and go for slow follow throughs. But I do appreciate the assessment and critique, I have a lot of respect for kenjutsu schools and really any martial system that isn't overly artsy.
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Post by juardian on Feb 21, 2019 3:08:16 GMT
Haha thanks man, and I actually am partly inspired by staff stuff when I do the occasional twirls. I have respect for blunt weapons even if they aren't my thing personally.
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Post by RufusScorpius on Feb 21, 2019 3:18:31 GMT
Oh, I know it's not fair to compare Iado styles with combat techniques....but it's hard not to anyways. It's like when watching Youtube comparison videos in which somebody tries to review a $10 knife then says it sucks because it's not as good as the $400 knife. Well, yeah, two different things. You have to critique something based on it's own merits, not how it stacks up against something else.
I just tend to view things through a combat lens, that's all. Perhaps it's a bit of vanity as well when I see the art form of the sword and say to myself "yeah, I could take that guy" with my combat techniques. Apples to oranges.
Too bad we don't live closer together, I would love to spar with you. We could learn from each other.
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Post by juardian on Feb 21, 2019 17:54:20 GMT
Oh, I know it's not fair to compare Iado styles with combat techniques....but it's hard not to anyways. It's like when watching Youtube comparison videos in which somebody tries to review a $10 knife then says it sucks because it's not as good as the $400 knife. Well, yeah, two different things. You have to critique something based on it's own merits, not how it stacks up against something else. I just tend to view things through a combat lens, that's all. Perhaps it's a bit of vanity as well when I see the art form of the sword and say to myself "yeah, I could take that guy" with my combat techniques. Apples to oranges. Too bad we don't live closer together, I would love to spar with you. We could learn from each other. I was thinking the same, I moved away from my main sparring partner so I feel like I've been stagnating in that regard. It helps so much to actually be fighting someone.
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Post by csills2313 on Feb 21, 2019 22:09:58 GMT
I really like your cutting videos. You use a slightly different technique than I do. I generally try to use batto do for practice cutting. But hey your techniques work great for you
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