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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2008 5:05:16 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2008 5:12:28 GMT
It is some type of smallsword beyond that I am not really sure, welcome to the forum there are many posters who might be able to help you with your question.
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Post by alvin on Jul 13, 2008 15:19:19 GMT
From the hilt design and what is shown of the blade, it definitely appears to be a smallsword. Jonathan and hotspur will probably be able to help in any further identification. Are there any markings on the blade or hilt and is the sword accompanied by the scabbard? If there are, this would help others in identifying place of origin, age, maker, etc.
Nice looking sword in good condition.
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Post by hotspur on Jul 13, 2008 15:49:55 GMT
Hi Walter, Yes, we are everywhere. So many of the older swords are unrecorded that absolutely determining the source can be difficult. Aside from browsing galleries, such as you'd find at and through www.myarmoury.com it really can be a matter of matching up some more specifics. This one looks continental to me some elements seem very French but parts of the build say Prussian to me. I am no authority on these but there has been a lot of thought and some images in this thread at a site you may also wish to register at and present your's. forums.swordforum.com/showthread.php?t=56806swordforum.comThere is also this neat page that had been put up a year or so ago. It does show some of the evolution and does have some maker information. swordlinks.com/courtswords/intro.htmlI can't be sure if the one you picture is silver but any hallmark in the dished guard or elsewhere on the hilt might lend a clue. I could really be from any time over a few decades straddling 1700, perhaps even later. Sword Forum International and myArmoury are really the two best resources for these. I have to imagine the silence at myArmoury kind of reflects what I'm saying that so many of these are quite individual and difficult to place exactly. the galleries there can be very good for placing older swords in better context but finding true siblings is pretty difficult unless a hallmark/maker's mark or maker's name is present. The other rapier hilted sword you posted elsewhere is also going to be the same type of quest. Best first placed in time and then a matter of finding very similar pieces that may, or may not be tracable to a given source/artisan. Some later smallsword looking pieces were military patterns and much easier to place in time and manufacture but when you get back to the one-offs sold through cutlers of the late renaissance(and earlier) it can be a matter of a great deal of research or plain luck at times. Even a lot of later 18th century stuff is a real mystery. It is an interesting variety of swords you are dealing with. Cheers Hotspur; it makes marked, inspected and/or dated military swords pretty easy to narrow down ;D
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