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Post by elbrittania39 on Sept 13, 2018 2:34:35 GMT
Do we have any good treatise or other sources on the use of scimitars, shamshirs, kilij, etc? I can't find any but would be very interested if someone could point me in the right direction. Thanks!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2018 2:41:02 GMT
Matt Easton of Scholagladiatoria on youtube has several videos dedicated to the tulwar, pulwar, and I believe the shamshir and scimitar. They're all essentially derivative of the same blade type. Check him out.
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Post by elbrittania39 on Sept 13, 2018 2:42:42 GMT
Matt Easton of Scholagladiatoria on youtube has several videos dedicated to the tulwar, pulwar, and I believe the shamshir and scimitar. They're all essentially derivative of the same blade type. Check him out. Yeah, I watch Matt regularly. His middle eastern sabre videos are great, but unfortunately he has to stick to history more than application since he doesn't fence these systems himself.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2018 2:43:38 GMT
You might ask him if there are written sources and treatises.
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Post by treeslicer on Sept 13, 2018 3:14:38 GMT
Indigenous sources, aside from a few Arabic horsemanship treatises and Turkish army manuals, deficient in details, don't seem to exist, of if they do, not outside of manuscript, and haven't been translated yet. IMHO, what instruction was given was oral and practical, and possibly neither systematized, nor written down. Compared to Europe or the Far East, the absence of Islamic swordsmanship treatises is remarkable.
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Post by elbrittania39 on Sept 13, 2018 3:42:37 GMT
Indigenous sources, aside from a few Arabic horsemanship treatises and Turkish army manuals, deficient in details, don't seem to exist, of if they do, not outside of manuscript, and haven't been translated yet. IMHO, what instruction was given was oral and practical, and possibly neither systematized, nor written down. Compared to Europe or the Far East, the absence of Islamic swordsmanship treatises is remarkable.
Thanks for the reference, very helpful. Purely speculation on my part, but I know conservative Islamic tradition forbade the depiction of humans. It was something along the lines of god being the only creator and drawing a person was akin to claiming to be a creator yourself. Anyway, point is, if you can't draw people, a sword treatise becomes very very hard to write.
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Post by Timo Nieminen on Sept 13, 2018 5:02:09 GMT
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Post by treeslicer on Sept 13, 2018 5:20:59 GMT
Thanks much, very interesting!
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