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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2008 11:43:39 GMT
Don't know if anyone else has seen this floating around on Youtube (so many to wade thru). This has been in my favorites for awhile.
Guy (Corey) in black shirt / tan trousers is using a Windlass 15th c. longsword for light sparring. After corresponding with him, asking about it, he explained that the edges were filed down and tip rounded off. Also said it's held up extremely well against some of the "big boys" sword makers wares in this application. Also he said the he had lengthened the grip by adding spring washers under the pommel.
One area when the debated whippiness of Windlass is somewhat good thing, especially when thrusting.
Another example of flexi swords used in histiorical longsword training/drills/tech. presentation/sparring is in the first 2 Gladiatores videos were they are using swords from Pavel Moc and Lutel of Cz.
This video showing the Windlass 15th c. longsword in sparring mode is what really made me buy mine.
cheers,
Bill
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2008 14:00:53 GMT
I had never seen a windlass used like that. That was very well done. Good thing it does have flex or the guy in blue pants would have run himself through in the last fight.
Very nice video.
Oh yeah, and plus one from me for posting it.
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Post by Razor on Jul 4, 2008 17:22:11 GMT
I never thought of using a Windlass for live steel sparing. With the knuckle guard on the 15 c., that would be a good sword for sparing.
Bill did you file down yours?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2008 18:47:38 GMT
I never thought of using a Windlass for live steel sparing. With the knuckle guard on the 15 c., that would be a good sword for sparing. I would not let anyone use one of those unsharpened swords on me for sparring. The tip is point enough to go through a fencing mask. I have seen masks take some nasty dents just from rapiers with rubber tips. A pointy tip would probably go through a fencing fencing jacket too. Using such a sword for anything other then cutting would void the insurance in my WMA group.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2008 18:56:11 GMT
Um billiam said that the swords owner filed down the edges and rounded the tip to turn it into a blunt.
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Post by Razor on Jul 4, 2008 19:09:48 GMT
With the edges filed down and the tip rounded off it shouldn't be that bad. I would add a rubber tip. Did you see the video? The guy in blue ran into the tip.
I was looking at this sword and the Windlass Longsword and I was told that th 15 c. is whippier than the Longsword, so I got the longsword.
My Windlass Longsword has almost the same flex as my training rapier, and if the 151 c. has more flex than the Longsword I don't see that much of a problem. My wooden waster has no flex at all and I trust with it.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2008 19:36:27 GMT
Sorry, missed that part about filling down and rounding the edge. I do agree that the windless swords have just as much flex as training swords.
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Post by 293master293 on Jul 4, 2008 19:46:53 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2008 2:08:42 GMT
I never thought of using a Windlass for live steel sparing. With the knuckle guard on the 15 c., that would be a good sword for sparing. Bill did you file down yours? No, sharpened mine. Thought did cross my mind....and still does from time to time. Right now using a Hanwei practical h&h for longsword study group, wish it had a little more give to it.
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Post by Razor on Jul 5, 2008 6:44:42 GMT
[quote author=billiam board=euromedieval thread=5519 post[/quote]
No, sharpened mine. Thought did cross my mind....and still does from time to time. Right now using a Hanwei practical h&h for longsword study group, wish it had a little more give to it.[/quote]
Does your 15 c. have more give than your Hanwei h&h?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2008 10:28:19 GMT
[quote author=billiam board=euromedieval thread=5519 post No, sharpened mine. Thought did cross my mind....and still does from time to time. Right now using a Hanwei practical h&h for longsword study group, wish it had a little more give to it.[/quote] Does your 15 c. have more give than your Hanwei h&h?[/quote] Oh. yes..I'd be afraid to thrust in our partner drills at any kinda force. We're are ever mindful of this fact and keep control a major focus. Two members just got new Hanwie pract. h&h's and they have more flex via a slightly thinner blade than the one's Blake & I use. Use the Windlass 15th c. @ home doing solo drills and for cutting. Still would like to try a Windlass piece longsword studies.....hmmmm....food for thought.....
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